Question about +heal set bonuses

Hello all.
I have a question about the +heal set bonuses (say, a 4 sloted Numina's will give +6% heal bonuses).

Now, does that bonus stack before ED or after ED?
Example: I have 100% heal (god knows how, but let's assume).

So, which one is true:

1- The +6% bonus will add up before ED, giving a total bonus of something like 101% (or something like that).

2- The +6% bonus is only added after ED, giving a total bonus of 106%? (and more 4 Numina's sets would give 112%, 118%, etc..)?



I ask about this because in MIDs it that +heal set bonus doesn't show in powers so I am not so sure about in game.
Thing is, if it only goes after ED, if I had five Numina's with 4 slots (+6% x 5 = 30%), would that be equivalent of like an extra heal enhancement?

I could be wrong, but based on the way other set bonuses (such as +defense) work, I'd say it's applied after ED. On my /SR scrapper for instance I get the full benefit from +def set bonuses even though I hit the ED cap.

It's after ED. Heal set bonuses function identically to the heal bonus form power boost, they increase your characters natural "healing enhancement" value and as such are unaffected by ED. Functionally it's the same as when your damage is buffed by Build Up or Fulcrum shift, it increases the character's "damage enhancement" bonus.

Regarding display, Mid's adds the healing bonus into the total healed in the power window but the actual bonus is shown in the "totals" pane rather than the "power enhancement" since it isn't, functionally, an enhancement it's a buff. In game the power details window will not show the buff at all, you will need to use the combat log if you want to verify it.

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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma I could be wrong, but based on the way other set bonuses (such as +defense) work, I'd say it's applied after ED. On my /SR scrapper for instance I get the full benefit from +def set bonuses even though I hit the ED cap.

I'd just like to clarify something here. Defense set bonuses function VERY differently from Healing set bonuses.

Set bonuses can be considered as one of two categories Direct Buffs and Enhancement Buffs. Direct Buffs are the more common type and boost an aspect of your character power directly and cover things like Defense, Resistance, Hit Points, Regen etc. The Enhancement Buffs function like additional enhancements in individual powers (except they aren't affect by ED) and include Accuracy, Damage, Recharge Time, Range, Improved Healing and all of the "increased mez duration" ones.

Direct Buffs, like defense, provide a static effect that is always on (subject to the exemplaring rules) and as such are completely independent of your powers.

The Enhancement Buffs, on the other hand, are increasing the effectiveness of your powers so only work if you have suitable powers. Functionally the game adds these bonuses to the enhancement bonus in the power itself before calculating the effectiveness of a power. This is why, for example, Improved Healing and Recharge set bonuses don't work on Reconstruction, since Reconstruction can take Resistance Enhancements it does not benefit from global enhancement buffs.

Well, they introduced ED to balance things for future power enhancement systems. IO set bonuses aren't suppose to be affected by ED at all.

Set bonuses in general ignore ED