Power Boost + Weave = ?


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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Hi guys,

Since the EU Test Server seems to be down (what a surprise), I can't test this by myself, so here I come.

Basically, does Power Boost + Weave works as I wish it would? I'm trying some funny things in Mids with my Ice/NRG blaster, and since I already know that Power Boost + Frozen Armor isn't giving the defense bonus we all want, I wanted to know if it would work with Weave.

Oh, and while I'm here, Power Boost wouldn't also boost Steadfast +Def by any chance? I really don't think it does, but hey... why not!

Thanks guys!

PS: Sorry if it's been asked before, but the search function didn't return anything worthy.


 

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Originally Posted by Beber View Post
Hi guys,

Since the EU Test Server seems to be down (what a surprise), I can't test this by myself, so here I come.

Basically, does Power Boost + Weave works as I wish it would? I'm trying some funny things in Mids with my Ice/NRG blaster, and since I already know that Power Boost + Frozen Armor isn't giving the defense bonus we all want, I wanted to know if it would work with Weave.

Oh, and while I'm here, Power Boost wouldn't also boost Steadfast +Def by any chance? I really don't think it does, but hey... why not!

Thanks guys!

PS: Sorry if it's been asked before, but the search function didn't return anything worthy.
Power Boost should affect Weave, but since Weave is a toggle which reapplies a short duration (0.75 second short) buff it won't do so for more than the 15 seconds PB is active I'm afraid.


 

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In addition to secondary effects ie; immobolize,kb,etc it looks like a 9.9% increase if you have weave active.

Although a 15 sec duration doesnt seem really worth it.

First time I've noticed this, dunno if it's right sorta interesting actually.Perhaps someone has some numbers on this to back it up?


 

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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA View Post
Power Boost should affect Weave, but since Weave is a toggle which reapplies a short duration (0.75 second short) buff it won't do so for more than the 15 seconds PB is active I'm afraid.
I'm aware of that, but PB should also work with Frozen Amror, and well... it doesn't, that's why I'm looking for confirmation that it does (or doesn't) work "as intended".


 

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Originally Posted by Beber View Post
I'm aware of that, but PB should also work with Frozen Amror, and well... it doesn't, that's why I'm looking for confirmation that it does (or doesn't) work "as intended".
It shouldn't work with Frozen Armor and if it doesn't, it's WAI. Any Defense (or Healing) power that grants enhanceable +Resist is not boosted by PB.


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F22Major's Guide to Power Boost is an excellent source of information on Power Boost (and similar powers).


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Originally Posted by DSorrow View Post
It shouldn't work with Frozen Armor and if it doesn't, it's WAI. Any Defense (or Healing) power that grants enhanceable +Resist is not boosted by PB.
Correct. For the curious here's the reason for that. Internally Damage Resistance Enhancement and Damage Enhancement are the same thing (this is why, for example, slotting a Ribosome Exposure Enhancement in an attack boosts the damage). Therefore it is necessary for the devs to ensure that any resistance bonuses in powers are not affected by external buffs (since if they were your damage bonus would increase the resistance they provide). However due to the way the power system is implemented they have two options for doing this: they can tag a single aspect of a power to not be affected by both enhancements and buffs or they can tag an entire power to not be affected by external buffs. They cannot tag a single aspect of a power to be affected by enhancements but not buffs (probably because the power system automatically adds those values together). As such any power that takes resistance enhancements is not affected by global buffs at all.

This primarily affects people using power boost but it also comes up in a few other sets when looking at set bonuses (such as the fact that Reconstruction does not benefit from global recharge or +healing set bonuses).


 

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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
Correct. For the curious here's the reason for that. Internally Damage Resistance Enhancement and Damage Enhancement are the same thing (this is why, for example, slotting a Ribosome Exposure Enhancement in an attack boosts the damage). Therefore it is necessary for the devs to ensure that any resistance bonuses in powers are not affected by external buffs (since if they were your damage bonus would increase the resistance they provide). However due to the way the power system is implemented they have two options for doing this: they can tag a single aspect of a power to not be affected by both enhancements and buffs or they can tag an entire power to not be affected by external buffs. They cannot tag a single aspect of a power to be affected by enhancements but not buffs (probably because the power system automatically adds those values together). As such any power that takes resistance enhancements is not affected by global buffs at all.

This primarily affects people using power boost but it also comes up in a few other sets when looking at set bonuses (such as the fact that Reconstruction does not benefit from global recharge or +healing set bonuses).
I couldn't expect a better answer than this! That also explains why Hoarfrost doesn't benefit from PB (the healing part).
A while ago I reported the PB + Frozen Armor bug (well, it isn't a bug, but at this time I thought), and after a long discussion with a senior GM (and by discussion I mean real discussion, not the "We're going to look into that" auto-email), he told me that it was definitely not WAI... I guess that a bit to technical for them.

I also knew (and reported) the Reconstruction bug with healing bonus (I didn't know any bonus didn't work though), but I had no idea it had the same reason behind it.

Anyway, that clearly shows enormous lack of specifications during the development of the game.

Thanks everyone for the answers, as always, in less than a day, everything is clearer!