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Blue_Centurion

 

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Using Primal forces for my Grav/Energy.

Should I drop Ragnarok in Energy Torrent or Explosive Blast?


 

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I'd drop it in the one that has longer base rech because it benefits more from Ragnarok's high Rech value. If they have the same base Recharge (don't have Mid's open), put it in the one you plan on using as soon as it's recharged.


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This is a huge recharge build, around 125% plus hasten, so not sure I need that. I am thinking I will use the cone more often, based on how I position myself, especially with hover, so it goes into knockdown, rather than screwing over my team with a giant radial KB attack being spammed.


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
This is a huge recharge build, around 125% plus hasten, so not sure I need that. I am thinking I will use the cone more often, based on how I position myself, especially with hover, so it goes into knockdown, rather than screwing over my team with a giant radial KB attack being spammed.
Just as a completely unrelated FYI, there is no such thing as radial KB in this game. KB is determined from the point of origin. If you throw a targeted AoE KB into the middle of a mob, they will always be knocked away from you.


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
This is a huge recharge build, around 125% plus hasten, so not sure I need that. I am thinking I will use the cone more often, based on how I position myself, especially with hover, so it goes into knockdown, rather than screwing over my team with a giant radial KB attack being spammed.
If you can keep hovering over the group, then they both do KD instead of KB AFAIK.


 

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Originally Posted by Pyro_Master_NA View Post
If you can keep hovering over the group, then they both do KD instead of KB AFAIK.
With Torrent, sort of. It's more like they're getting knocked back at sharp angles to the ground, so they bounce off in a way that's less obvious. With Explosive Blast, I'm not sure, having never used the power, but I doubt it. If the KB emanates from the Point of Origin, the origin being the mob being targetted, it will always scatter mobs unless the mob itself is above or below the others.

As a Mind/Energy, I'm liking the new AoE attack chain we've got in Terrify > ETorrent > ExBlast. I already had Terrify HO'd out for damage/mez, this just makes it more effective.


 

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Originally Posted by Vidszhite View Post
With Torrent, sort of. It's more like they're getting knocked back at sharp angles to the ground, so they bounce off in a way that's less obvious. With Explosive Blast, I'm not sure, having never used the power, but I doubt it. If the KB emanates from the Point of Origin, the origin being the mob being targetted, it will always scatter mobs unless the mob itself is above or below the others.

As a Mind/Energy, I'm liking the new AoE attack chain we've got in Terrify > ETorrent > ExBlast. I already had Terrify HO'd out for damage/mez, this just makes it more effective.
No, point of origin as in the caster. (i.e. you)


 

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that helps lots. the one question left is number of targhets affected and radius. Red Tomax for trollers has torrent at 45* arc 10 target max. anybody know for Explosive Blast?


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
that helps lots. the one question left is number of targhets affected and radius. Red Tomax for trollers has torrent at 45* arc 10 target max. anybody know for Explosive Blast?
Typically, Targeted AoEs are 16 targets max which is what blaster's explosive blast is showing on Red Tomax although I can't find any confirmation in Mid's or Tomax for that. Mid's shows it as a 15ft. radius.


 

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Okay, i'll throw it into Explosive Blast then, thanks.


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
Using Primal forces for my Grav/Energy.

Should I drop Ragnarok in Energy Torrent or Explosive Blast?
Drop it into Explosive Blast. I just got it today. It's easier to use.


 

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Just a note here, Energy Torrent in APPs does knockdown ,not knockback, the mag is 0.67. That makes it much more useful and predictable.