Your favourite geek culture references in CoH?
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LOTR actually has both very specific cultural references (although Th Hobbit has many moe of them) there's a couple of times when Tolkien's "narration voice" explicitly compares things to the "real World"
Not the way Sam means. He's talking about referencing movies or TV shows as an in-joke or as shorthand for a character's interests. There are plenty of works out there which have no cultural references whatsoever because they don't take place in our culture. Lord of the Rings, for instance, or Asimov's Foundation series.
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It gets less comon as the show goes on though.
And even so there are still a ton of cultral references there: Farmer, innkeeper, steward, king..
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The neighborhoods are all named after horror movie directors.
Sam Raimi and George Romero are the only ones I recall offhand.
They're not all TV shows.
Rogers and Martins in Steel Canyon are references to Murtaugh and Riggs from the Lethal Weapon movies.
All fictional police references, but some of them are from movies too.
Sam Raimi and George Romero are the only ones I recall offhand.
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All of the various Detectives are cultural references to every detective tv show.
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Rogers and Martins in Steel Canyon are references to Murtaugh and Riggs from the Lethal Weapon movies.
All fictional police references, but some of them are from movies too.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
That's reaching. There's a difference between "cultural" references and "pop culture" references. This thread and what Sam was referring to are quite clearly the latter.
De minimis non curat Lex Luthor.
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Either you're being deliberately obtuse (my bet) or you are casting too wide a net when you say "cultural references."
LOTR actually has both very specific cultural references (although Th Hobbit has many moe of them) there's a couple of times when Tolkien's "narration voice" explicitly compares things to the "real World"
It gets less comon as the show goes on though. And even so there are still a ton of cultral references there: Farmer, innkeeper, steward, king.. |
If Tolkien had put the same sort of cultural references in The Hobbit and LotR that we're talking about here -- puns referring to other fictional works and real-world brands -- then he would've done things like have a monster who kills by sucking things in and called it Hoover or called the sage elf Cronkite or named Tom Bombadil "Mr. Guinness." Beorn would've been from the village of Paddington. He would've named Elrond "Alfred" whose house sits at the top of treacherous Thirty-Nine Steps and the address would been Number 17. He would've said Sauron is the man who would be king who killed the "courageous Captain Kim" or instead of "Strider" Aragorn would've been known as "The Red Primrose." And so on. But there's none of that.
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A while back, I ran the tip mission where you have to find three magic words to control a group of Banished Pantheon totems to open a coffin for you. When you pronounce the words together, they come out as "Mekka lekka hi, mekka hiney ho."
I also suspect that the newspaper mission where you have to defeat Officer Waynewright of the Sky Raiders is a reference to R. Dorothy Wayneright from The Big O.
34 heroes,
20 villains, Victory, Justice, Infinity, Virtue, Triumph, Exalted -- some more active than others
Wentworth's... aka Richard Wentworth the alter ego of pulp hero The Spider, from the 30's/
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It was more blatantly done, much later, by the Harvard Lampoon...
If Tolkien had put the same sort of cultural references in The Hobbit and LotR that we're talking about here -- puns referring to other fictional works and real-world brands -- then he would've done things like have a monster who kills by sucking things in and called it Hoover or called the sage elf Cronkite or named Tom Bombadil "Mr. Guinness." Beorn would've been from the village of Paddington. He would've named Elrond "Alfred" whose house sits at the top of treacherous Thirty-Nine Steps and the address would been Number 17. He would've said Sauron is the man who would be king who killed the "courageous Captain Kim" or instead of "Strider" Aragorn would've been known as "The Red Primrose." And so on. But there's none of that.
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On and on they trod, vainly calling after the folk whose evidence of passage lay after them: a scrap of breaded veal cutlet, a sleazy boggie novel, one of Dildo's tablespoons (What a coincidence, Frito thought). But no boggies. They did come across a large rabbit with a cheap pocket watch who was pursued by some nut of a girl, another kid being viciously mugged by three furious grizzlies ("We'd better not get involved," said Frito wisely), and a deserted and flyspecked gingerbread bungalow with a "To Let" sign on the marzipan door. But no clue to a way out. |
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"Aye," said Legolam, "the river is under a spell, for it is named after the fair elf-maid Nesselrode who had the hots for Menthol, God of After-Dinner Drinks. But the evil Oxydol, Goddess of Quick Tricks and Small Slams, appeared to her in the shape of a five-iron and told her that Menthol was twotiming with the Princess Phisohex, daughter of King Sano. At this Nesselrode became wroth and swore a great oath to kick Phisohex in the gut and get her mother, Cinerama, Goddess of Short-Term Loans, to turn Menthol into an erector set. But Menthol got wind of the plot and came to Nesselrode in the guise of a refrigerator, turned her into a river, and went west to sell encyclopedias. Even now, in the spring, the river softly cries, 'Menthol, Menthol, you are one wazoo. One day I'm the elf next door and then poof I'm a river. You stink.' And the wind answers, 'Phooey.' |
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And how a piece of fiction without cultural references would be completely incomprehensible, right+
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