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Any perma-Eclipse builds out there that DON'T require purples?

AIB

By AIB,
Posted on: 2010-11-30 20:38 in Kheldians

 

Posted

Seriously. Been going over and over (and over and over) my warshade rebuild and either I just don't have enough caffiene in my system or I'm stupid (probably both).

I'm finding it damnably difficult to pull up a viable build (dual or triform) that can pick up enough recharge to perma-eclipse without going after purples.

While I can afford them, I don't exactly care to go splurging on them. Altitis has left me with a rather herculean respec schedule....


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Seriously. Been going over and over (and over and over) my warshade rebuild and either I just don't have enough caffiene in my system or I'm stupid (probably both).

I'm finding it damnably difficult to pull up a viable build (dual or triform) that can pick up enough recharge to perma-eclipse without going after purples.

While I can afford them, I don't exactly care to go splurging on them. Altitis has left me with a rather herculean respec schedule....
okay: I got the following:

Shadow bolt: 6.25 : Decimation
Ebon Eye: 6.25 :: Decimation
Shadow blast 6.25 :: Decimation
Dark Detonation 6.25 :: Positron Blast
Unchain Essence: 6.25% :: Positron Blast

Orbiting Death 5% : Oblit
Sunless mire 5% : Oblit
Essence Drain: 5% : Doctored Wounds
Stygian Circle: 5%: Efficacy Adapter
Boxing: 5%: Crushing Impact

Shadow Cloak : 7.5% : LoTG proc
Combat Jumping: 7.5% : LoTG Proc
Weave: 7.5% : LoTG proc
Manuevers: 7.5% : LoTG Proc
Vengeance: 7.5% : LoTG Proc

Gravity Well: 7.5% : Basilisk's Gaze
Gravitic Emination: 7.5% : Kinetic Crash
Quaser: 7.5% : Kinectic Crash

Total:

31.25
25
37.5
22.5
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116.25

Add that to 3 slot hasten and you should be golden.

Proof of concept build in mids .mxd format.

 

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Thanks Je.

Also, something's borked with the file link. The MDX that downloads pulls up empty, then re-adding the sets in continues to add to the totals..

Tried it several times on several computers. Same thing.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Thanks Je.

Also, something's borked with the file link. The MDX that downloads pulls up empty, then re-adding the sets in continues to add to the totals..

Tried it several times on several computers. Same thing.
bleh. probably something screwy I did on my end creating it, or differences in MIDS versions.

Okay, here's the forum export version. As I said, it's just proof of concept, so the slots for each recharge set are keyed out, but I only grabbed the first IO in each set to identify each power for what set it is supposed to receive. Slots for each non-recharge power are not keyed out, so those are the ones that you'll probably want to sort through to get forms or other powers you want.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.81
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Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Empty
  • (3) Empty
  • (5) Empty
  • (5) Empty
Level 1: Absorption
  • (A) Empty
  • (46) Empty
  • (46) Empty
Level 2: Ebon Eye
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Empty
  • (7) Empty
  • (9) Empty
  • (9) Empty
Level 4: Orbiting Death
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (11) Empty
  • (11) Empty
  • (13) Empty
  • (13) Empty
Level 6: Shadow Blast
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (15) Empty
  • (15) Empty
  • (17) Empty
  • (17) Empty
Level 8: Boxing
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (43) Empty
  • (45) Empty
  • (45) Empty
  • (45) Empty
Level 10: Gravimetric Snare
  • (A) Empty
Level 12: Sunless Mire
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (19) Empty
  • (19) Empty
  • (21) Empty
  • (21) Empty
Level 14: Shadow Cloak
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (50) Empty
Level 16: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Empty
Level 18: Gravity Well
  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
  • (23) Empty
  • (23) Empty
  • (25) Empty
Level 20: Essence Drain
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
  • (25) Empty
  • (27) Empty
  • (27) Empty
  • (29) Empty
  • (29) Empty
Level 22: Stygian Circle
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (31) Empty
  • (31) Empty
  • (31) Empty
  • (33) Empty
  • (33) Empty
Level 24: Dark Detonation
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Empty
  • (34) Empty
  • (34) Empty
  • (34) Empty
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation
  • (A) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback
  • (36) Empty
  • (36) Empty
  • (36) Empty
  • (37) Empty
  • (37) Empty
Level 28: Unchain Essence
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Empty
  • (39) Empty
  • (39) Empty
  • (39) Empty
Level 30: Tough
  • (A) Empty
  • (46) Empty
Level 32: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (48) Empty
Level 35: Quasar
  • (A) Empty
  • (40) Force Feedback - Damage/Knockback
  • (40) Empty
  • (40) Empty
  • (42) Empty
  • (42) Empty
Level 38: Stygian Return
  • (A) Empty
  • (50) Empty
Level 41: Eclipse
  • (A) Empty
  • (42) Empty
  • (43) Empty
  • (43) Empty
Level 44: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (48) Empty
Level 47: Assault
  • (A) Empty
  • (48) Empty
Level 49: Vengeance
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (50) Empty
------------
Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step
  • (A) Empty
Level 10: Shadow Recall
  • (A) Empty
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Seriously. Been going over and over (and over and over) my warshade rebuild and either I just don't have enough caffiene in my system or I'm stupid (probably both).

I'm finding it damnably difficult to pull up a viable build (dual or triform) that can pick up enough recharge to perma-eclipse without going after purples.

While I can afford them, I don't exactly care to go splurging on them. Altitis has left me with a rather herculean respec schedule....
Triform is the way I went, and I managed perma-eclipse without getting purples.

Positron's blast and Stupefy get you three of the 6.25% bonuses. Decimation (I think that's the one, should be a level 40 set) in two of the single target blasts give you two more.

Five LotG's. Cost you a cool 1000 merits, or 10 hero merits (back then, I spent the 1000 merits). Grab combat jumping and the concealment pool to fit them all.

Basilisk's gaze, four slot, in Gravity Well gives you 7.5%.

If you need it, Crushing Impact in dwarf attacks, and Oblit in the mire is an expensive 5% too (but I recommend an extra slot for some end reduction).

Hasten, of course.

Really, I think that's all you need.

There's also the new Alpha slot stuff that could help you if you go with Spiritual.

Where to now?
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Here is what i've done with mine, Eclipse is 81s recharge for 90s duration, without purples.


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This is really close to what I have on live with near (under 1 second) perma hasten and perma eclipse. On live I have an Armageddon I won from Organica in black dwarf mire, which is why I left it blank below. There are some slots floating that you could throw in to inherent fitness or move around.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.81
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leaping

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 1: Absorption -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 2: Gravity Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 4: Orbiting Death -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 8: Starless Step -- Acc-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(13), Oblit-%Dam(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 18: Gravity Well -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), Dmg-I(42), Dmg-I(46)
Level 20: Black Dwarf -- P'Shift-End%(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), ImpArm-ResDam(37), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 22: Stygian Circle -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23)
Level 24: Nebulous Form -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(27), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(27), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(37), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(46)
Level 28: Inky Aspect -- Rope-Acc/Stun(A)
Level 30: Unchain Essence -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(42), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), S'bndAl-Build%(34)
Level 35: Stygian Return -- Heal-I(A)
Level 38: Eclipse -- Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(A), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(43), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(45), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), ImpArm-ResDam(45), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(46)
Level 41: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
------------
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A), Empty(5)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A), Empty(15)
Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A)
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Range-I(A)
------------
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 6: Dark Nova Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Posi-Dam%(50)
Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Posi-Dam%(43)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(21), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(21), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire -- Empty(A), Empty(25), Empty(31), Empty(36), Empty(39)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(25), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(48)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Step -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(A), Mocking-Rchg(29), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(40), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(40), Mocking-Taunt(48), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(50)



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edit: The pet purples in Dark extract can be changed to anything you want. They were insanely cheap when I bought them before the merged markets.

 

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If I were looking for 5 spots for LOTGs on a tri-form I would not get combat jumping.

I would recommend...Shadow Cloak, Grant Invisibility, Invisibility, Maneuvars (put the +perception enh in Tactics) and Vengeance.

Of course, I didn't write the guide that inspired the masses to become MFing Warshades (Great job on that guide btw ).

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Altitis has left me with a rather herculean respec schedule....
I feel your pain. I used a free spec on some alts before ish 19 to set them up and left slots in rest/sprint for respec again after ish 19 to slot into inherent fitness.

4 alts down, 46 to go....

As for no purples yeah it can be done just like permadom can be done without purples.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AIB View Post
If I were looking for 5 spots for LOTGs on a tri-form I would not get combat jumping.

I would recommend...Shadow Cloak, Grant Invisibility, Invisibility, Maneuvars (put the +perception enh in Tactics) and Vengeance.

Of course, I didn't write the guide that inspired the masses to become MFing Warshades (Great job on that guide btw ).
to add leadership as you stated would require 1 additional power choice.

As stated shadowcloak, GI, Inv, Maneuvers, Tactics, and Vengeance is 1 more power than in the build. It is certainly viable however. I would not want to have to drop starless step or nebulous, even as marginally as I do use them for that however..

On that note with inherent fitness I'm probably going to switch out the the Pshifter proc for the +perception global in Nova. It's pretty sustainable already and I don't even have any of the procs in fitness yet.