Exemping Rules??


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Ok so I hate exemping, and I NEVER ever! do it, how ever I am finding certain accolades such as TFC means I pretty much have to put up with it for a while, So knowing nothing about that system can someone tell me the rules? What IO's work, what sets you get, do you get the whole % benefit or is that just lvl 50 ones?? Oh and what powers can be used at what lvl ? Do the rules ever waver, like in PvP (SC) or AE building for example...


Thanks for any replies, sorry for being ignorant about this part of the game.


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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
Ok so I hate exemping, and I NEVER ever! do it, how ever I am finding certain accolades such as TFC means I pretty much have to put up with it for a while, So knowing nothing about that system can someone tell me the rules? What IO's work, what sets you get, do you get the whole % benefit or is that just lvl 50 ones?? Oh and what powers can be used at what lvl ? Do the rules ever waver, like in PvP (SC) or AE building for example...


Thanks for any replies, sorry for being ignorant about this part of the game.
IO's that you've slotted will work down to 3 levels over the current level you're at. So, if you're currently exemped to level 30, you will keep your set bonuses from IOs up to level 33. Past that, you just get the natural enhancement, sans bonuses.

Purple IOs are exempt. You keep their set bonuses no matter what. As to PvP IOs, you'll have to get that answer from someone else.

Powers can be used up to 5 levels past the level you are exemped at, so for example; if you're exemped to 40, you can use the level 41 and 44 powers, but nothing past that.

I'm not sure what you mean about wavering rules in AE/pvp zones.

Edit: The enhancements also scale down effectiveness a bit while you're exemped, for enhancements over your current exemped level.


 

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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
Ok so I hate exemping, and I NEVER ever! do it, how ever I am finding certain accolades such as TFC means I pretty much have to put up with it for a while, So knowing nothing about that system can someone tell me the rules? What IO's work, what sets you get, do you get the whole % benefit or is that just lvl 50 ones?? Oh and what powers can be used at what lvl ? Do the rules ever waver, like in PvP (SC) or AE building for example...


Thanks for any replies, sorry for being ignorant about this part of the game.
This is based on memory, so it may not be completely accurate.

You only get set bonuses for sets that are no more than 3 levels above your exemped level. But I believe you get the benefit of all the slots in the powers you have available. They may be reduced in effectiveness if you exemp to low levels, someone else will have o confirm that one as I don't remember for sure.

Numina's and Miracle uniques will work at any level as long as you have access to the power they are slotted in. LotGs you must be no more than 3 levels below (hence why the level 25s are so popular). I don't recall the availability of every single IO, but as a general rule the uniques will function normally.

You have access to powers up to 5 levels above your exemped level. So, if you exemp to level 20 you will have access to the powers you picked at 22 and 24. That was huge for the people running Positron, because it meant that you got to keep Stamina for it. Of course that will be a non-issue soon anyway.

PvP IOs also work at any level I believe.

Hope that helps a little bit.


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Just on the Set Bonuses, if you have a range of levels slotted in one power it removes each of the bonuses as get 3 levels lower than each of the IOs. For example

Your IO's levels are
20, 22, 28, 35, 45, 50

At:

50 - 5 set bonuses
46 - 4 set bonuses
41 - 3 set bonuses
31 - 2 set bonuses
24 - 1 set bonus
19 - No bonuses

However, the enhancement value of each will still work (although i think they are scaled somewhat)


 

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how ever I am finding certain accolades such as TFC means I pretty much have to put up with it for a while
There are two Accolades that are rather tough for one side to get, but pretty easy for the other. They look like this:



The blue one grants +5 Endurance to the character. Heroes can get this by running around a few zones and defeating some werewolves and vampires, but villains, among other things, need to partake in the Lord Recluse Strike Force, which isn't too popular because most teams can't complete it.

The yellow one grants +5% Hit Points to the character. Villains should get this naturally while leveling up, since it's the Accolade for collecting all the Exploration badges in Mayhem Missions. Heroes, on the other hand, have to slog through seven Task Forces to get to it, including five really old, painfully tedious and repetitive ones.

What I did on my Tanker was grab The Atlas Medallion (blue), then side-switch and grab Invader (yellow). The character has run a couple Task Forces in his day, but none required for his auto powers.


 

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The link posted above has all the information but it is confusing. People have explained how the set bonuses work, I'll explain the scaling.

Short version:
The game drops your enhancement's bonuses to try and mimick the values someone of that level would have on store-bought enhancements. So below level 25 the penalties get very steep as the game tries to steer you into DO and TO levels of bonus.

Long version:
If you have 90% damage slotted into an attack, when you exemplar down below 32, it will be reduced. There is a table at the link that explains how much. But as an example, if you ran a Positron taskforce at level 15 it would be 35%. This is calculated by taking your level 50 and comparing to the .391 listed in the table for level 15.

But this process is messy and not so simple. There are two key things that help your numbers stay up when you exemp down. #1 DE is applied AFTER the exemplar hit, not before. So if you have overslotted for something, your exemped value will be a bit higher. #2 really small bonuses, never get reduced. So if you have a Nucleus Hami-O in an attack giving 33%/33%, and you drop to level 25, it only gives 24%/24%. But if you slotted the Mako Quad, it is exactly the same, giving 18%x4 at 50 and at 25, because the value of the bonus counts as "small".

To take advantage of this second rule the guideline is:
Level 50 Quads are immune to exemping down to level 21
Level 43 Triples are immune to exemping down to level 21
Level 24 Duals are immune to exemping down to level 21

Under level 21 you have to have an original bonus of 10% or less at which point you are better off overslotting than trying to stack small bonuses.

What it means to you:
In your case, nothing you don't do it often enough to build for it. But It means that you should expect some critical powers to be gimped.

All of your click-based Mez protection, even with three level 50 recharges slotted are unable to provide 100% uptime lower than about level 25. This means you might want to use the base enhancement station as well.

You'll need to customize your attack chains because they won't have the recharge you are used to, and because the damage may be confusing. Since individual IOs will degrade differently (ie if you have a dual or a triple or a quad, the % bonus might or might not be reduced depending on how low you exemp) so sets like Touch of Death and Obliteration will degrade differently, it's not that both ahve 95% and are both reduced to .39, since Oblit has a quad and the touch of death triples are lower than level 43, not all pieces of the set get degraded at all levels of exemping. So your powers will behave oddly, one that is middle of the road at level 50 might be your big hitter at 22.

Hope that helped and wasn't just long-winded BS. =)


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There are two types of special IO's: procs and globals.

Procs require that the power they are slotted in can be used - the level of the IO is not a factor. The Numina's Convalescence and Miracle uniques are Proc120s, so as long as you have the power they're slotted in (and use that power), these IO's will work regardless of exemp level. For instance, if you took Health at 16 and slotted a Miracle unique, you would get the +recovery down to level 11 regardless of the level of the enhancement; at level 10 you would not get the +recovery.

Globals will function so long as they are no more than 3 levels above your current exemp level, and will function even if the power they're slotted in is not available. For instance, if you take Weave at level 41 and slot a level 25 LotG: +recharge in it, then exemp to 35, you would no longer be able to use Weave, but would still get the global bonus from your LotG. Conversely if you were using a level 50 LotG, you would only get the bonus if you were level 47 or above, regardless of whether the power was available or not.