Mind/Psy/ice perma dom and soft capped defense build?


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Hello, does anyone have a I9 mind/psy/ice/ perma dom and soft capped defense build to share? I Would also like to solo the lord recluse strike force. My mind dom is currently level 23, and I seemed to be stuck getting a build to work. Thanks in advance.


 

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I don't have a build off hand, but I can tell you that to solo the LRSF you will need to get higher recharge than just permadom. It will help a LOT if you can get drain psyche to be perma, so the -regen is always there. Otherwise, I'm not sure a mind/psy/cold can pull off the damage needed. And to get that much recharge, softcapping defense will be tough to do, though I'd shoot for ranged over any kind of typed damage.


 

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Here's my Mind/Psi/Ice as it stands right now. It was made with i19 in mind (using Mid's i19 patch):

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Since capping S/L def is so much easier than going for ranged def due to the APP/PPP shield (and still maintaining a high global +rech), I went that rout. If you do, Kinetic Combat is the set you'll need, and it won't be cheap, about as expensive as the cheaper purple sets. Ranged def probably would be the better option, and it's usually the way I go on my Corrs. But so many attacks have some S/L built into them, that capping your S/L defense will get you through the majority of the game.

As far as soloing the RSF...Fiery-Enforcer apparently did it on his Mind/Fire/Ice. He says he perma-confused all the AVs along the way, including using Numina and Valkyrie to finish off other heroes, then killed them. I haven't figured out how he did it to a lvl 53 Numina yet...I went into the AE and tried to perma-confuse her through the PToDs with my build, just by standing there spamming Confuse while stealthed, and even though I could stack just enough mag to mez her, it lasted maybe a second, then dropped off. I can see getting her to take down the rest of the Phalanx, but rendering her harmless so that I can kill her seems next to impossible for me at this point.

Anyway, /endrambling. One last note, if you get enough money or get REALLY forrtunate you can put a Gladiator's Armor +3% def into Tough and drop the 3 slots from Boxing, giving you 2 more slots to play around with.

Micah


 

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Cool, thanks for the build I'll try it out, gives me something to work towards while leveling.


 

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I've got a purpled Mind/Psy/Ice, and in my opinion softcapping S/L isn't going to help much.

Why? You're not going to worry about anything except AVs. You'll have several options for permanent, hard control of anything Boss and below. EBs can be easily perma-confused, and if you build to kill AVs you'll have the tools you need to handle EBs.

If you softcap S/L, you've got two swings before you get splattered. If you crank your recharge into the 200% range, you've got mesmerize recharged before the AV gets a second swing. That's instant mag 8 sleep for a permadom, and with that much recharge you'll have near-perma Drain Psyche for the regen debuff.

Drop the purple set in Confuse, crank your global recharge as high as you can get it, and try to keep a 53/54 AV confused for 2 minutes. Make sure to allow gaps for using Hasten, Domination, and Drain Psyche. If you can keep the AV permanently confused and drained, you can solo it by stabbing it with a toothpick. If you can keep it drained, mostly confused, and slept when it's not confused that also works - just more slowly.

To start off, you might try spamming confuse until you see it 'stick' with PTOD up, then using Mass Confuse and approaching the target while you continue to spam Confuse at it. Then alternate Confuse with Drain Psyche and whatever you're using for damage.

Point is, you're not going to live through two hits and it's impossible to die in one hit. S/L isn't going to help against Numina anyway, so you're better off with obscene amounts of recharge and confuse duration.


 

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If you're not going to build for S/L defense what would you do then? You already have the S/L shield so it's not that difficult to do, and if you have the inf you can get softcapped defense and Permadom without Hasten.


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I went soft capped S/L on my Mind/Psi/Ice Dom. When I'm finished, I should have about 198% global recharge.

It's a rough life, what can I say?

Like Fiery-Enforcer said, you've already got Frozen Armor in your epic, so you might as well. It's really not that difficult to do and still get decent recharge levels.



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Ok, so I cranked my recharge to over 213%, DP is down for maybe a few seconds, but even with it up, I can't seem to whittle down Numi's health in AE. I can, however, keep her perma confused through PtoD.

Ideas?


 

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This is against a lvl 53 Numina I'm assuming? What attacks are you using? When I faced Numina I had to use temp powers since I had no form of -regen, and even if you do there are not many attacks to use while keeping her confused.


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Originally Posted by LygerZero View Post
Ok, so I cranked my recharge to over 213%, DP is down for maybe a few seconds, but even with it up, I can't seem to whittle down Numi's health in AE. I can, however, keep her perma confused through PtoD.

Ideas?
Is your DP slotted for Heal? Because that enhances both heal and -regen. Other then that, you just need to figure out the best attack chain you can in between confuses. I don't have a mind/ myself, so not sure how often you have to fit in confuse. What is your APP? If it's /Ice like the OP, then you would likely want to fire off Sleet and Ice Storm as often as possible. IF you have Mind Probe slotted for damage, that would be your best dps attack, followed by Subdue and Mental blast, which are identical. If you have done all that, and still can't take her down, not sure what else to say. I guess you could add envenomed dagger, but not sure how much it will add over DP.

Basically you would design a priority of attacks between confuses, so if confuse is recharging, then you fire off something, and the something would be a ordered list. So for Mind/Psy/Ice with Sleet, Ice Storm, Mind Probe and Mental blast, that would basically be the priority. If you don't have Mind Probe, or a different APP, then it would be a bit different. It won't be hard to design a solid attack chain, simply because you will be firing confuse off so often. So what you want to do is use the best dps attacks whenever you can.


 

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yea, it was a 53 numi.

I actually have given up the mind/psi idea and went mind/earth. I know mind/fire can do iot and thats without DP obviously. Earth has a megaton hold in Seismic Smash to stack with Dominate for perma hold. I can perma hold her through PToD, though without it finished I can't sustain the end usage of my proposed Dominate > Seismic > Dominate > Heavy Mallet > Repeat chain before bleeding blue.

Would Sleet be worth casting? I can have 1 out every 20 seconds, maybe every 15, with my build. -30% res is a big deal but still resisted by AV, and especially a lvl 53 AV.

My other chain consisted of Confuse > Probe > Confuse > Mental > Confuse. Wasnt enough damage to straight kill the AV. Working DP (yea, slotted for over 1k -regen, but resisted by (85%?) the AV) into the chain left the damage lacking imo.


I can perma hold Numia at 50 and kill her with my current build. However, I never thought about working sleet in. -res > -regen.

I'm so used to building brute after brute after brute. This domi has potential to do things I never imagined....and it's driving me crazy trying to get it to do it. lol


 

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starting to think the Mind/Earth is the better way to go now. Power Boost + Domination + Confuse = more time to attack. Maybe 2 hits in between confuses?

I'll finish up my build in mids and post it tomorrow. I think I'm in love with domis :-/