Protector Bots' Force Sheild change?


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I'm a returning player to the MM Archetype and I wanted to ask if the Force sheild power was changed since before my Bots would both use their Sheild to buff my Def. As of late I have only ben getting one buff between the two of them.

Does anyone know if this is a bug or just WAI?

Edit: I also forgot to mention that my Protector Bots stack their Sheilds on my Drones and Assault Bot as I'm used to.


 

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Yes, WAI, you are not getting a free 20% defense slotted just for being a Bot MM, 10% defense for free is crazy enough.


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Back before I7 i think bot MMs got the benefit of both bubbles. It was the same patch that gave villains Grandville, and 40-50 content.


 

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Well hell I guess that's what I get for reading up on those outdated guides then lol.


 

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It's pretty much been the one bubble as long as I've had my Bots MM.

Still nothing to sneeze at when stacked with Dispersion Bubble or Force Field Generator.


 

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Can I follow this up with a couple questions. What are the values of the two shields? (e.g., Mel, Ran, AoE, x%, S/L/F/C/E/N/T/P, x%, etc)

From the City of Data, http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...r.Force_Shield, it shows the following:

DEF(Smashing, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +75% for 240s [Non-resistable]

Also, it appears the Protector uses a Dispersion Bubble, is that correct?
http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...persion_Bubble

Although, the data in there doesn't make sense to me:
DEF(All Types, AOE) +100% for 0.75s [Non-resistable]


 

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No, protector bots in City of Villains had Dispersion Bubbles. The protector bots have NEVER had dispersion bubbles in City of Villains once it went live.


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Originally Posted by Psylenz View Post
No, protector bots in City of Villains had Dispersion Bubbles. The protector bots have NEVER had dispersion bubbles in City of Villains once it went live.
It's in the code, but it's flagged not to use it.


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Its a relic from CoV beta.


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Originally Posted by makerian View Post
Can I follow this up with a couple questions. What are the values of the two shields? (e.g., Mel, Ran, AoE, x%, S/L/F/C/E/N/T/P, x%, etc)

From the City of Data, http://tomax.cohtitan.com/data/power...r.Force_Shield, it shows the following:

DEF(Smashing, Melee, Ranged, AOE) +75% for 240s [Non-resistable]
That's the correct value (though a bit hard to interpret since Red Tomax uses the raw data values which can have odd units): 7.5% defense to Ranged, AoE, and Melee. With decent enhancement (like a couple of defense IOs) it goes up to 10-11%, which isn't half bad. Especially for the other bots since they get double shields for 20%+ defense.

And since it's only positional defense, yes, some psi attacks ignore it just like they do on Super Reflexes.


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When you say double shields, do you mean each Protector Bot casts one instance of the same shield on the other bots? Or does each Protector Bot have two types of shield powers? I think that's the part that confuses me. Sounds like you're saying it's two instances of the same shield power.


 

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Originally Posted by makerian View Post
When you say double shields, do you mean each Protector Bot casts one instance of the same shield on the other bots? Or does each Protector Bot have two types of shield powers? I think that's the part that confuses me. Sounds like you're saying it's two instances of the same shield power.
Yes, it's two instances of the same shield power. One from each protector bot. The battle drones and assault bot both get two shields. The protector bots only get one shield since they can't cast it on themselves.