My Native American ancestry wishes to thank you for your kind thoughts.
It is a day to ponder, "Why is it not North and South Christopherica ?"
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Yes, but can you link to why they kept the name if it was based on error? Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
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Originally Posted by Paragon
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New Amsterdam was renamed to New York when the English gained control of it from the Dutch. Amsterdam is the capital of the Netherlands, which the new ruling party would not want its citizens giving any form of fealty to. I'm sure if someone eventually conquers (North, South, or the United States of) America, it'll get renamed to something more appropriate to the conquering nation. Until then, it will retain the same label it's had on geographical maps since its foundation: America.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Trix
Yes, but can you link to why they kept the name if it was based on error? Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
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The New Amsterdam line was just an excuse to quote They Might Be Giants. It still doesn't answer the question of why the name "America" was kept even though it was based on a mistake.
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Originally Posted by Paragon
New Amsterdam was renamed to New York when the English gained control of it from the Dutch. Amsterdam is the capital of the Netherlands, which the new ruling party would not want its citizens giving any form of fealty to. I'm sure if someone eventually conquers (North, South, or the United States of) America, it'll get renamed to something more appropriate to the conquering nation.
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Well Columbus was both wrong, cruel/genocidal/enslaving, and Catholic. The English were most definitely not Catholic, though just as blood thirsty and cruel. Combined with the fact that he didn't draw the maps of the Americas, Amerigo did and other map makers eventually named the new lands, in the new maps, as America. Amerigo was also the one to coin the phrase, "A new world".
Those truths, ignorant insistence that he was actually in Asia, the fact that he was eventually arrested for atrocities he committed (that he had indeed learned from the catholic conquest of the Iberian peninsula earlier), and that he tried to get 10% of all profits from the new world ensured that the lands would not be honored with the name Columbia. Keep in mind that he was arrested for what amounted to atrocities then.
He was a cruel genocidal en slaver as were the rest of the Catholic Monarchs and the Europeans. It is an understatement to say he has not been romanticized a bit since then.
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That may weigh heavily on my decision to buy merchandise sold at a discounted price in his honor.
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Originally Posted by Late2Party
Well Columbus was both wrong, cruel/genocidal/enslaving, and Catholic. The English were most definitely not Catholic, though just as blood thirsty and cruel. Combined with the fact that he didn't draw the maps of the Americas, Amerigo did and other map makers eventually named the new lands, in the new maps, as America. Amerigo was also the one to coin the phrase, "A new world".
Those truths, ignorant insistence that he was actually in Asia, the fact that he was eventually arrested for atrocities he committed (that he had indeed learned from the catholic conquest of the Iberian peninsula earlier), and that he tried to get 10% of all profits from the new world ensured that the lands would not be honored with the name Columbia. Keep in mind that he was arrested for what amounted to atrocities then. He was a cruel genocidal en slaver as were the rest of the Catholic Monarchs and the Europeans. It is an understatement to say he has not been romanticized a bit since then. |
Hey Seven,
Thanks for the holiday well wishes and happy thoughts regardless of the gobbledygook which came after it. I will be serving my community on the holiday and it is a shame that bad things happen even on holidays, but that's why I do my job. =D
Hope you have a safe and happy holiday as well.
Freedom Horde! Join the Ranks!
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Hey Seven,
Thanks for the holiday well wishes and happy thoughts regardless of the gobbledygook which came after it. I will be serving my community on the holiday and it is a shame that bad things happen even on holidays, but that's why I do my job. =D Hope you have a safe and happy holiday as well. |
Thanks....yea, there are those that like to thread jack something that was only meant with the best of intentions and not about wanting a history lesson.
You only fail if you give up. - Dana Scully
Time Jesum Transeuntum Et Non Riverentum - Nick Cave
We're not just destroyers, at the same time we can be saviors. - Allen Walker
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Originally Posted by U_S_C_I
My Native American ancestry wishes to thank you for your kind thoughts.
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Thanks.
You only fail if you give up. - Dana Scully
Time Jesum Transeuntum Et Non Riverentum - Nick Cave
We're not just destroyers, at the same time we can be saviors. - Allen Walker
Thanks Seven. I've the day off and I took Tuesday off too :-) I'm a little piggy
@MarvelatMee and @COL Burn
24 - 50s
Too many ALTs
Which is this monday the 11th, I wanted to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday! Especially those that have the day off. To those that don't its a dirty shame!
You only fail if you give up. - Dana Scully
Time Jesum Transeuntum Et Non Riverentum - Nick Cave
We're not just destroyers, at the same time we can be saviors. - Allen Walker