Various teleports (Recall Friend, Teleport, Team TP, Assemble the Team), the Good vs Evil Jump Jet, the Flight pack temp power. There is another badge at the top of the tower in Neutropolis that also needs vertical movement.
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yeah, found that one also - believe it's Mohr Power. oh well, guess I will use my alternate build and take fly. really wish they would quit doing that, should not have to rely on certain travel powers to get to badges.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Various teleports (Recall Friend, Teleport, Team TP, Assemble the Team), the Good vs Evil Jump Jet, the Flight pack temp power. There is another badge at the top of the tower in Neutropolis that also needs vertical movement.
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That's... kinda the whole point of Exploration badges: To make you explore places.
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Not the one I was thinking of but that works too. For the record I was talking about Eyes to the Future. You can't get to it without a lot of vertical movement.
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yeah, found that one also - believe it's Mohr Power. oh well, guess I will use my alternate build and take fly. really wish they would quit doing that, should not have to rely on certain travel powers to get to badges.
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no problem with exploring places, my comment was that it should be possible to explore places without having to take certain travel powers. there should be a way to get to the locations different ways.
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That's... kinda the whole point of Exploration badges: To make you explore places.
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no problem with exploring places, my comment was that it should be possible to explore places without having to take certain travel powers. there should be a way to get to the locations different ways.
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Look on the bright side. At least it's not an Exploration badge that is only obtainable by making specific choices to get a specific mission map, and then having to open a secret door to get to the badge. lol
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no problem with exploring places, my comment was that it should be possible to explore places without having to take certain travel powers. there should be a way to get to the locations different ways.
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How about Ace?
How about Old Fashioned?
Ooh, I know: Master of Science?
Or Top Dog?
Or Triumphant?
Or Weapon of Mass Destruction?
There are plenty of other examples. Suffice it to say that if you want to get the explore badges, you need some sort of vertical movement to get all of them.
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I'm not sure I would include this one. The Mothership is half buried. You can [Walk] to it from the North side if you really felt the need.|
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Either way, your point is made.
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I'm not sure I would include this one. The Mothership is half buried. You can [Walk] to it from the North side if you really felt the need.
Either way, your point is made. |
And that one generally needs a full team to help take the shields down. The amount of characters that could solo the Pylons is very small.
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All you need for the one on top of Neuron's tower is ninja run or the jump pack. There are two doors that leads most of the way up the tower. After entering the second door it is a short jump to the top of the building. Quite a few of the buildings in Praetoria have these roof access doors. It is possible to get the one on top of the building in Nova the same way.
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Look on the bright side. At least it's not an Exploration badge that is only obtainable by making specific choices to get a specific mission map, and then having to open a secret door to get to the badge. lol
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What badge is this and where do I get one ?!
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Jump pack yes. Ninja run no as it doesn't jump up high enough, at least without help. Besides the jump pack is essentially Super Leap and the original poster didn't like that suggestion.
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All you need for the one on top of Neuron's tower is ninja run or the jump pack. There are two doors that leads most of the way up the tower. After entering the second door it is a short jump to the top of the building. Quite a few of the buildings in Praetoria have these roof access doors. It is possible to get the one on top of the building in Nova the same way.
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There were several ways listed earlier in this thread.
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What badge is this and where do I get one ?!
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and I can get to all of those on hero or villain side solo, without having to pay $$ for add ons or taking specific travel powers. not possible to do that, at least that I am aware of, in praetoria. therefore, my comment that I (personally, in my opinion) believe that should be taken into account when placing exploration badges in new content.
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Oh, like Keen Sighted?
How about Ace? Or Unabashed?  How about Faultless Mystic?  How about Old Fashioned? Ooh, I know: Master of Science? Or Top Dog? Or Triumphant? Or Weapon of Mass Destruction? There are plenty of other examples. Suffice it to say that if you want to get the explore badges, you need some sort of vertical movement to get all of them. |
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You can buy on the market and craft JetPack recipe (or whatever it is called).
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and I can get to all of those on hero or villain side solo, without having to pay $$ for add ons or taking specific travel powers. not possible to do that, at least that I am aware of, in praetoria. therefore, my comment that I (personally, in my opinion) believe that should be taken into account when placing exploration badges in new content.
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The doors up there are invisible now? Or is there not one to the very top? If not, I somehow got it with NR...
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Not the one I was thinking of but that works too. For the record I was talking about Eyes to the Future. You can't get to it without a lot of vertical movement.
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Either way, your point is made.
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and I can get to all of those on hero or villain side solo, without having to pay $$ for add ons or taking specific travel powers. not possible to do that, at least that I am aware of, in praetoria. therefore, my comment that I (personally, in my opinion) believe that should be taken into account when placing exploration badges in new content.
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As to the others, without vertical movement, you're hosed. This is especially apparent with Master of Science, Top Dog, Triumphant, Ace, or Weapons of Mass Destruction. There is absolutely no way up without some kind of vertical movement power like Teleport, Super Jump, or Flight/hover (including any related temp powers).
If you want a vertical movement power without taking a power choice, get a temp flight pack recipe & send it and the components to yourself and use that flight.
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The doors up there are invisible now? Or is there not one to the very top? If not, I somehow got it with NR...
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....................^^^^^^^ The last part that is accessible via doors.
Ninja Run can't jump the 4-5 stories of the last leg of the journey. There isn't a door to the very top of the building.
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Look on the bright side. At least it's not an Exploration badge that is only obtainable by making specific choices to get a specific mission map, and then having to open a secret door to get to the badge. lol
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What badge is this and where do I get one ?!
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Sounds like Multidimentional... >.> <.<
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Any raid I've been to has started from the south side.
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My point is that it's possible to walk to it if you have to by going to the other side. A vertical power isn't necessary.
You can get Faultless Mystic with Ninja Run (or probably even just hurdle), and you can climb scaffolding and jump to get Weapon of Mass Destruction. Another example (mostly) is Meltdown on top of the reactor dome in Terra Volta... although before the jump pack or raptor pack existed, I did manage to get it on a super speeder by making a one in a million leap and barely hitting a spot where I didn't just slide back off.
But yeah... it seems intentional that there are a few badges that aren't accessible without any vertical movement... but it's not an issue, as any character can get vertical movement now, even without boosters. I remember needed help from friends with recall friend to get badges way back when.
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If you have Hurdle / Combat Jumping, you can get to a whole lot of exploration badges that would appear out of reach. If you just try jumping up the obstacle, you can get to places like Keen Sighted, most of the ones on the tops of statues, and the tops of almost any building with windows or scaffolds. Many other badges, like Master of the Airwaves at the top of the Grandville tower, can be reached without any travel enhancements at all - they just require some more creative / cumbersome routes to get there.
In any case, anyone out of Praetoria can go to Firebase Zulu or Grandville to buy a 2 hour jetpack for 10k inf, and anyone even within Praetoria can buy and craft a jetpack temp power recipe (or buy/find one on another character and email it to your alt).
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But unless you can solo Pylons, a team is needed. I think I can count on one hand the amount of players (like Bill Z Bubba) that have claimed doing that. Even then that is only on a few of their characters.
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My point is that it's possible to walk to it if you have to by going to the other side. A vertical power isn't necessary.
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Regardless if a team is needed (or even just sliding in behind "somebody else's raid"), I don't see what that has to do with the discussion about needing vertical travel powers.
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But unless you can solo Pylons, a team is needed. I think I can count on one hand the amount of players (like Bill Z Bubba) that have claimed doing that. Even then that is only on a few of their characters.
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<shrug> Like you said, I've more than enough other examples to debunk the myth that all badges are accessible without some type of vertical movement.
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But unless you can solo Pylons, a team is needed. I think I can count on one hand the amount of players (like Bill Z Bubba) that have claimed doing that. Even then that is only on a few of their characters.
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There's a LOT more players than a handful that can solo pylons, SG. See 'em here.
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is there any way to get the ambitious badge without having fly or SJ? appears it is on top of the building and I am not finding any doors that might let you in to an elevator and no ledges to use to scale up the outside
thanks