The "other" Watchmen Movie
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Posted on: 2010-09-15 10:11 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
I like how he calls Greengrass a rookie, while Snyder was a relative rookie too.
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It's 4:17 pm and I'm posting my response in this thread, at that same moment it's 12:30 pm and I'm reading this thread for the first time while eating my lunch of a club sandwich, while at the same moment it is 11:00 am and I'm wondering what would be good for lunch.....maybe something with bacon.
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This is misguided arrogance. Fans waited for 20 years to see THE WATCHMEN, not some ambitious upstart's "original take on it". Even if we forget, for a moment, that Dominic Watkins's Owl Ship resembles a couple of Tie Fighters somehow mangled together, we can rest assured that Alan Moore's original book is quite, well, ORIGINAL on its own without being fed through this sort of Hollywood meat grinder.|
Originally Posted by Dominic Watkins
I just thought it wasn't anything original, and ours was going to be an original take on it while trying to do as much justice to the graphic novel as possible.
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I am satisfied by Zack Snyder's adaptation, for the same reason I'm satisfied by Christopher Nolan's original Detective Comics inspiration. They are faithful to the comics, not just their own creative egos.
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Cept for that part where all of the characters were ripoffs of existing characters.
| we can rest assured that Alan Moore's original book is quite, well, ORIGINAL on its own without being fed through this sort of Hollywood meat grinder. |
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Not really ripoffs, Bill. He was asked by DC to make a story using newly aquired characters from Charleton Comics, when he presented the story to DC they realized that if the story was told they wouldn't be able to use those characters in the future so they had him make "original" or homage characters for his original story.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Cept for that part where all of the characters were ripoffs of existing characters.
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I'd say more like homages or parodies. That was the whole point though.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Cept for that part where all of the characters were ripoffs of existing characters.
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I also think that Snyder's vision was better than this proposal. It is possible, after all, to let the audience draw the allegories between Watchman's original time frame and the one in which it was finally released to the theater audience. It's unnecessary to update it to a modern version, because a lot of audience members will draw those parallels themselves without needing to have their noses rubbed in it or upsetting the fans with a vision that's farther from the source material.
It's not a rip off, it's an homage!
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That is a popular sentiment (it goes without saying), and partly true. Alan Moore wanted to use those existing characters. DC felt that was too risqué, which might be understandable, given the era (I think they should have taken those risks). WATCHMEN was the compromise for Moore. But maybe he saw it as an opportunity to create characters like Rorschach and Doctor Manhattan. I know I would have. The universe of WATCHMEN was a level deeper than DC's Batman, and I have always perceived Rorschach as the Crusader THAT universe deserved. (Most people say Owl Man, but I agree with them only partially.)|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Cept for that part where all of the characters were ripoffs of existing characters.
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Batman is one of my all-time favorite characters (I don't have many big favorites), but he couldn't fill Rorschach's shoes. I don't mean that in the BATMAN VS RORSCHACH sense. I mean that Batman would (and has) compromised in situations that Rorschach would not have. They are, perhaps, dimensional counterparts; but a few divergences have created a wide gap.
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I wouldn't mind a "reinterpretation" of Watchmen, but not as the first movie. I have no problem with great comic stories becoming like Shakespeare or the Greek literature in their many retellings, but since a Watchmen movie is so close to when it was originally published, you gotta go faithful at first!
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Fully agree with that. Also, after scrolling through the flurry of knee-jerk reactions (mine included), uh, did we just get trolled? |
Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
I wouldn't mind a "reinterpretation" of Watchmen, but not as the first movie. I have no problem with great comic stories becoming like Shakespeare or the Greek literature in their many retellings, but since a Watchmen movie is so close to when it was originally published, you gotta go faithful at first!
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Dark-Eyes � Doctor Serpentine � Stonecaster � Skymaiden � The Blue Jaguar
Guide to Altitis � A Comic for New Players � The Lore Project � Intro to extraterrestrials in CoH
I liked Snyder's version of Watchmen. It's not perfect but it's probably as close as we could expect from Hollywood. The Watkins/Greengrass version sounds like just another bad Hollywood mangling of an Alan Moore story. Do we really need another movie on the order of LXG? I don't think so.
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I had read through the article earlier in the day.
I tend to agree w/the rest in the thread that a 'more modern' take would of killed the movie to the fanbase. Watchmen needed to be kept 'period' for the overall tone and character backgrounds to work. I also feel Synder's take on the source material was very well done. Not prefect, but as good as can be expected.
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Storyboards and plot differences from a previous attempt to bring Watchmen to the big screen.
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