Vigilantes/Rogues and Epic Power Pools... (quick question)
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Aedon,
Posted on: 2010-09-07 23:50 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
In order to get patron powers on a Hero, you have to first become a Vigilante by doing 10 Vigilante tip missions and then the Vigilante morality mission. Once you do that, you change alignment to Vigilante and can access the Rogue Isles, but you can not yet run most villain missions (including patron arcs).
Once you are a Vigilante, go to the Rogue Isles and start doing Villain tip missions until you get 10 of them, then run the Villain morality mission. You will become a full Villain, at which time you can (as long as you are level 41+) do a patron arc. Once you complete the arc and unlock patron powers, they stay unlocked regardless of your alignment and you can respec in and out of the patron pools whenever you like. So if you want to be a Hero with Soul Mastery, then after unlocking the patron powers you will want to go back to Hero.
The first step is to do 10 Rogue tip missions and the Rogue morality mission, which will change your alignment to Rogue and allow you to go back to Paragon City. Do so, and then do 10 Hero tips and the Hero morality mission to convert fully back to Hero.
A couple of warnings: first, changing alignment clears any Hero or Villain merits you might have saved up. Spend them before you switch. Second, this will take a little while because you can only do five tips a day (you can however get the morality mission tip and run it on the same day you do the last five normal tips). That means that if you run your full five tips every day it will take eight days to go full circle to villain and back to hero. And finally, Rogues and Vigilantes can get tips for Villain or Hero depending on where they are. If you want to go Hero you have to collect your tips in Paragon City (that's true for both Rogues and Vigilantes), while if you want to go Villain you need to collect tips in the Isles. The easiest way is to go to a level 20-30 zone in the proper city and mow down grey spawns... any mob level 20+ can drop a tip whether it's worth XP or not.
Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
FAR too many non-50 alts to name
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Perfect, thanks StrykerX, that is perfectly clear.
Now... to get started on making my tanker into a Vigilante for this process. I know what I am doing tonight!
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--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Of course, if you want to become a Hero again, you will have to reverse the process once you have done the Patron Arc. You'll become a Rogue, so you can get back to Paragon City, and then run tips there to go back to Hero.
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Originally Posted by TygerTyger
Perfect, thanks StrykerX, that is perfectly clear.
Now... to get started on making my tanker into a Vigilante for this process. I know what I am doing tonight! |
I've been away from the game for awhile and I've tried to read up on this topic but it hasn't worked out well.
Now what if my tank is already level 50 and he has his epic power pool all filled out. If I make the trek to villain and do the patron pool arc will I be able to respec into my snazzy new patron pool powers or will I be stuck because I already chose an epic power pool?
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Once you do a patron arc, you add the (entire) list of Patron Pools to the things you can choose from when picking an "epic" pool. You aren't stuck - choose between and Epic or Patron pool the next time you respec.|
Originally Posted by thekolo
Now what if my tank is already level 50 and he has his epic power pool all filled out. If I make the trek to villain and do the patron pool arc will I be able to respec into my snazzy new patron pool powers or will I be stuck because I already chose an epic power pool?
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Note that you keep this choice even if you return to a heroic alignment.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Ah good. I love my first 50 to death but I made a series of unusually noobish mistakes while slotting him out and what not. I am slowly fixing them and when I19 comes out they will be pretty much be gone. However, I am not very happy with the energy epic pool. Laser beam eyes do not quite work as advertised. Also I might want a pet even if it isn't very good at anything. I just want it.
Tested
My rogue MM was able to start patron arc
If I recall correctly, HEATs don't get the epic power pools.
If I take a HEAT over to being a villain, can he unlock Patron Power Pools by doing a patron arc?
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No. The Patron Pools are still an epic pool.
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Originally Posted by Afterimage
If I recall correctly, HEATs don't get the epic power pools.
If I take a HEAT over to being a villain, can he unlock Patron Power Pools by doing a patron arc? |
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So just to make sure I understand this...
) you have access to the powers regardless of respec??? I.e. if I respec after returning to Heroside status, I'll still have access to the patron power pool?
I have a level 44 tanker (currently 100% hero) who, with the advent of i19, I will have room for epic powers on. I want, for concept reasons, to have him with Soul Mastery powers.
So in order to do this, I'll need to do enough alignment missions (which I haven't completely understood yet, but will look into asap), to become either a rogue (best option) or a fullblown villain (thus losing access to Paragon City), then take the appropriate Patron arc missions, then get the powers, then do more alignment missions to restore him to Hero status?
If that is the case, I presume that once you have done the patron arcs (which I've also never done!
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