Blue side CoP Trial Sep 3, 6pm PDT


Azrhiaz

 

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lol I will make one suggestion, If we get the storm AV, lets wait the hour and pray for a different AV lol


 

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I'll join if there is still room.

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I'm sorry for the confusion with the start time and that I missed inviting some of you.

The raid failed due to mechanics, not the players involved.

We dropped 8 chemical nukes, likely the same amount of nuclear rockets, had full bio rocket support, I saw about a dozen shivans, and I know we had about 5 rad/* defenders or */rad controllers and a bit over a full team of damage dealers and we only got the AV to 1/4 health in the 45 second window.

The AV continued to take us out through his shields, and his regen rate was impossible to overcome even with all the debuffs.

Like I said, it wasn't the team's fault, it was the game's.




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I blame Jax


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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
I'm sorry for the confusion with the start time and that I missed inviting some of you.

The raid failed due to mechanics, not the players involved.

We dropped 8 chemical nukes, likely the same amount of nuclear rockets, had full bio rocket support, I saw about a dozen shivans, and I know we had about 5 rad/* defenders or */rad controllers and a bit over a full team of damage dealers and we only got the AV to 1/4 health in the 45 second window.

The AV continued to take us out through his shields, and his regen rate was impossible to overcome even with all the debuffs.

Like I said, it wasn't the team's fault, it was the game's.


called it


Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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Originally Posted by PC_guy View Post
called it
Care to show how it is done?

Oh, and I forgot to add: apparently we got the Storm AV.




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
Care to show how it is done?

Oh, and I forgot to add: apparently we got the Storm AV.

not really, the CoP is horribly designed trail that has absolutely no point in running ever. the reward is trivial for the amount of prep put in, and the entire trial is even more trivialized by taking out the base raiding factor which means the only reason to run it is to do something difficult which if you're doing that you might as well do a hami since it atleast rewards you for your time.

I will say however that its pretty safe to assume that it was probably infact the players involved. you basically pugged the thing only telling people to get shivs/nukes(insert shivans on lrsf quote) which is setting you up for fail. yes, the trail is designed to be stupid hard (which would be awesome if it actually rewarded you for it) but thinking you can do it with the average pug consisting of the mediocre people you'll find on TW/about half of the triumph forumites, you're setting yourself up for fail. note im not saying that they're all bad players, even though there are some, just that they more casual players and aren't good enough to complete something as hard as the cop on, what is probably safe to assume, most of their first times because you need to know what you're doing.


Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.

 

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If it were not for the AV fight lag, and I'll admit that next time I'll ask for only -some- nukes to be dropped, I think we could have done it. As it was I saw a slide show during the first AV shield drop and heard on Vent that the shield was up before the slideshow stopped. It was worse than an Issue 8 Hami Raid with newer hardware.

Though yeah, I think a specific team setup would be better.




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I will say however that its pretty safe to assume that it was probably infact the players involved. you basically pugged the thing only telling people to get shivs/nukes(insert shivans on lrsf quote) which is setting you up for fail. yes, the trail is designed to be stupid hard (which would be awesome if it actually rewarded you for it) but thinking you can do it with the average pug consisting of the mediocre people you'll find on TW/about half of the triumph forumites, you're setting yourself up for fail. note im not saying that they're all bad players, even though there are some, just that they more casual players and aren't good enough to complete something as hard as the cop on, what is probably safe to assume, most of their first times because you need to know what you're doing.
The Triumph players are all that I have to work with for this. I am trying to be optimistic, hoping that these attempts will provide practice for the server.




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Hey Snow. Sorry to hear about your run. Dont get down about it I have been doing a lot of these recently and the Storm AV is quite a deal harder than the other one. With his firing through his shield you are already taking more damage to begin with. The real issue is that his damage and debuff aura pass through the shield. Anyone near the AV will be taking constant ticks of damage as well as being debuffed tohit at almost 60% this makes fighting the spawns really hard which is the real problem. Without taking the spawns down fast you get more respawns and this give him time to heal. My best advice is if you get the Storm AV just scrap the run. It is not worth the effort you put into getting Nukes and Shivians and other temp powers. I wish you all luck on your next attempts.


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