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DM/SD build, need enlightment

Aumakua

By Aumakua,
Posted on: 2010-08-29 09:04 in Scrappers

 

Posted

After 5 level 25 scrappers I finally decide to take the /Shield road.

I must admit I hesitated a lot with FM/, KM/ or DM/ but I all in all I hope Drain Life and Dark Consumption will make up for le loss of heal and endo /SD comes with. And that /SD will cover the lack of AoE options from DM.


I hope I havent done huge mistakes on my build, I plan on probably skip Dark Consumption and take Grand Cover at some point when end is not a big problem anymore.

This is a non-purple'd build, tho its quite expensive but I have resources.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,803
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Patebringer: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(3), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), ImpArm-ResDam(9), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), ResDam-I(11)
Level 2: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Cloud-%Dam(17)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(17), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(19), GftotA-Def(19)
Level 6: True Grit -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(21), ResDam-I(21), Heal-I(23), Mrcl-Heal(31), Mrcl-Rcvry+(39)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Nictus-Heal(27), Nictus-Acc/Heal(27)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 20: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(31), P'Shift-EndMod(31), P'Shift-End%(33)
Level 24: Dark Consumption -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(33), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 26: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(34)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Touch of Fear -- Abys-Dam%(A), Abys-Acc/Rchg(43), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(46), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(46), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(50)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(37), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A), ResDam-I(50)
Level 41: Ring of Fire -- Decim-Build%(A), Decim-Acc/Dmg(42), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Decim-Acc/Dmg(45), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Dam%(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Posted

Yeah, tho I'm not looking for a solo build or something but more for the max dps possible.

Edit: btw how the heck are these Enzyme Exposure working?

 

Posted

What exactly are your goals for this build? Slotting for defense and having a lot of DPS isn't exclusive, you can buy your cake and eat it too. My build is more than capable of producing (relatively) prodigious amounts of damage per second and is more than capable of tanking for most teams.

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

I'm trying to achieve the best DPS build possible without having to rely on purples for the moment so I guess that means focusing on global recharge and enough +rec to handle the charge.

I think maybe the best is if you could "explain" your build (sorry I'm asking much).

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
I'm trying to achieve the best DPS build possible without having to rely on purples for the moment so I guess that means focusing on global recharge and enough +rec to handle the charge.

I think maybe the best is if you could "explain" your build (sorry I'm asking much).
Asking is good! Asking questions means you learn, and that is always good, never be afraid to ask questions lol. Are you saying that you don't want to rely on purple inspirations or purple(superior) enhancements?

My build is expensive, I will not lie lol. My build has soft capped defenses using only set bonuses while focusing on recharge, and recovery. In its current incarnation it is capable of soloing just about every Arch Villain out there as well as soloing a rikti pylon in around 5 mins.

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

I was talking about purple enhencement sets.

I'm looking for a pure DPS build, I'm 99% of the time teamed with 2 irl friends. We'v been playing Invul brute/FireKin Corr/Fire Brute (I was the brute) for a while now and GR was an occasion to sart fresh.

We'r now WP Tanker/EarthKin Troller/Scrapper, so DM/SD scrapper. I tried a lot of characters but I think this one sounds right. Tho, I dont really need much survivavbility since my tanker takes most the hits but I need to survive melee (and survive AAO thats it). So yeah, I need basicly a DPS more than solo build.

About your build (builds?) I dont get why you go take those Hamidons in Deflection and Active Defense, mostly in active Defense I must say.

 

Posted

Because that's the only way to slot Active Defense for defense. Defense enhancements also increase defense debuff resistance. It's probably a bug. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the DDR in Active Defense were to be flagged as unenhanceable.

Note that AAO is a very strong taunt aura, while RttC is a weak one. You might be pulling aggro off your tank more often than you'd like. Although Phalanx Fighting will be helping you out there, and if your controller takes Maneuvers that will help even more.

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Posted

Here is a quick and dirty build I threw together, soft capped defense, good recharge, regeneration, and recovery.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(25), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), T'Death-Dam%(33)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(5), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(5), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Smite -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(40), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(40), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), T'Death-Dam%(43)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- HO:Enzym(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45)
Level 6: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(45), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Dam%(46)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 12: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(17), HO:Membr(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(19), Zephyr-ResKB(19)
Level 16: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-End%(25)
Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Dark Consumption -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(27), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Oblit-%Dam(50)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Dam%(37)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 38: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam(40)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

I dont understand how Phalanx fighting works or how much +def it is worth. Neither actually how Grand Cover works actually :x

(Oh btw somehow all the enhencement are lvl 30 on your build)

 

Posted

Phalanx Fighting grants you 3.75% defense to all positions and a subsiquent amount of defense with up to 3 allies in melee range. Grant Cover gives your allies defense up to a certain range while also granting you defense debuff resistance(DDR). You'll want as much DDR for your build as possible. The cap is 95% percent.

Yes I always put all enhancements at L30 because the difference between L50 enhancements and L30 isn't all that much offering you soft capped defenses, most or all of your recharge bonuses to L27.

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

Take this build and no other....



Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
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Dark/SD: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (43) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (23) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
  • (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (9) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 6: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 8: Siphon Life
  • (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (13) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (13) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (17) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (17) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (39) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
  • (46) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 12: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 14: Super Speed
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  • (50) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Shadow Maul
  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 20: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (25) Miracle - Heal
  • (27) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
Level 22: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Soul Drain
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (29) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (29) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 30: Boxing
  • (A) Empty
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 38: Tough
  • (A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
  • (39) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
Level 41: Weave
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 44: Char
  • (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
  • (45) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (45) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold
  • (45) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (46) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (46) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
Level 47: Melt Armor
  • (A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
  • (48) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
  • (48) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
Level 49: One with the Shield
  • (A) Resist Damage IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 0: Ninja Run

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice View Post
Take this build and no other....
You don't have enough recharge in that build to run MG>SM>SL>SM.

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

Posted

yeah your build isnt better than mine at all and second one -Def debuff on you and your dead...



Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.803
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Dark/SD: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (40) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (9) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (11) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (23) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
  • (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (9) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 6: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 8: Siphon Life
  • (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (13) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (13) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (17) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (17) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
  • (39) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 12: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 14: Super Speed
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 16: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Shadow Maul
  • (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (19) Obliteration - Damage
  • (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (21) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (25) Miracle - Heal
  • (27) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
Level 22: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
Level 24: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 26: Soul Drain
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (31) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (29) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (29) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 30: Boxing
  • (A) Empty
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 38: Tough
  • (A) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
  • (39) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
Level 41: Weave
  • (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 44: Focused Accuracy
  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
  • (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
Level 47: Laser Beam Eyes
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 49: One with the Shield
  • (A) Resist Damage IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 0: Ninja Run

 

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and i had that build saved before the BotZ nerf

 

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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice View Post
and i had that build saved before the BotZ nerf
Then why post it if it is no longer pertinent, especially with the moniker "Take this build and no other...."?

@ OP: You state that you're looking for pure DPS. This includes Fireball by your first posted build, but other builds don't have it. Is Fireball something you want in the build? Also, since you have a /Kin in your party, do you need a travel power? Eliminating a travel power frees up a build quite a bit, and with Ninja Run available, it has become a fairly common practice even without a /Kin to speed you up. Finally, I know you said no purple enhancements, but would you be willing to do a set of Absolute Amazement in Boxing since it's a fairly inexpensive purple set?

Once I get this info, I'll put a build together for you.

 

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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice View Post
Take this build and no other....
Things that are jumping right out at me:
  • Can't run the top attack chain gapless (particularly relevant since OP asked for DPS)
  • AoE isn't soft-capped
  • Steadfast Protection knockback IO when you're already immune to knockback (and if it's for the 0.03 EPS recovery, you can do much better elsewhere)
  • Cytoskeletons should be Enzymes
  • Microfilament in Super Speed? You're over the cap for speed, and you don't need endurance reduction in a travel power.
  • Endurance won't be sustainable (probably good enough for normal play)
  • Two full set mules? That's not strictly a failure, but I'd rather my powers and slots be doing something for me other than bonuses.
  • Not particularly good defense debuff resistance, which is one of the perks of Shield Defense

I'm sure there's more, but hopefully the point is made. It's not a BAD build overall, but it's far from "take this build and no other".

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Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
Then why post it if it is no longer pertinent, especially with the moniker "Take this build and no other...."?

@ OP: You state that you're looking for pure DPS. This includes Fireball by your first posted build, but other builds don't have it. Is Fireball something you want in the build? Also, since you have a /Kin in your party, do you need a travel power? Eliminating a travel power frees up a build quite a bit, and with Ninja Run available, it has become a fairly common practice even without a /Kin to speed you up. Finally, I know you said no purple enhancements, but would you be willing to do a set of Absolute Amazement in Boxing since it's a fairly inexpensive purple set?

Once I get this info, I'll put a build together for you.
I'v been toying a lot around Santo's build and mine to try to compromise, without great success I must admit
So much to do for work lately...

Fireball was in my build indeed, I dont know if its "something that I want" but I'm afraid the complete lack of AoE might be an issue on the long run (yes my partnerts can decently melt down minions but this is still CoH, AoE means a lot). In the team we had before I was playing an Elec/Fire Brute so I'm kina going the complete opposite way

As for travel powers I do have a Kin most of the time and even without ninja running I could live with the 10k inf jet packs (heck I'm superspeeder anyways, I use the jetpack a lot). Of course its always an ease to have travel power.

For the build itselft, I was wondering if sacrifying Fireball for basicly more +def carriers was worth it compared to just pick Shadowmelt and drop its cooldown to about 30 sec.


(Edit: as for resources I have about 17 characters who can decently run Super Merits missions, so thats about 17 LotG every four days... tho, I dont have infinite time and I hardly do it with 3 toons. So yeah I can affort 30ish Million enhencements but real purps goes for about ten times this price).


I came up with that, I'm not quite sure, also note that I'm not puting any Hami in my builds because I have no clue how they work.


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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
(Edit: as for resources I have about 17 characters who can decently run Super Merits missions, so thats about 17 LotG every four days... tho, I dont have infinite time and I hardly do it with 3 toons. So yeah I can affort 30ish Million enhencements but real purps goes for about ten times this price).
This is a horrible way of doing it. Head over the marketing forum and cut that time significantly and make most of your inf offline.

 

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Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice View Post
yeah your build isnt better than mine at all and second one -Def debuff on you and your dead...


What?

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

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Originally Posted by Santorican View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOMEonE Nice View Post
yeah your build isnt better than mine at all and second one -Def debuff on you and your dead
What?
Yeah, I noticed that. Here's the DDR of the builds posted so far:

Nightchill = 58% for 47 seconds, 41% for 13 seconds = 54% average
Santorican (common IOs changed to level 50) = 94% for 48 seconds, 66% for 12 seconds = 88% average
SOMEonE Nice #1 = 69% for 41 seconds, 45% for 19 seconds = 61% average
SOMEonE Nice #2 (the build posted with the comment) = 66% for 30 seconds, 45% for 30 seconds = 56% average

So HOPEFULLY the "one -Def debuff on you and your (sic) dead" comment was in regards to Nightchill's build and not yours. But even then, while I agree that the DDR in Nightchill's build is subpar (54%), the build SOMEonE Nice posted with the comment was only 2% better (56%). The other build SOMEonE Nice posted is a little better still at 61%, but that's still subpar. Only Santorican's build started handling DDR properly at 88%. It can go all the way to the cap, but 88% is probably enough in practice.

I can't tell if we're being messed with or if SOMEonE Nice is simply confused about how much he or she "knows" about how all this works, and as a result thinks the REST of us are confused about how all this works, and thus the fairly derisive yet inaccurate comments. There are probably other possibilities as well. Those are the two that I'd bet on. It'd be amusing if I weren't worried about other people being misled and spending gobs of influence on subpar builds.

And I apologize, Nightchill, but I don't have a build of my own to offer as I haven't fiddled with DM/SD directly. I suspect the linked thread has some good ones, but I haven't checked them.

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I think someone nice is just playing a very late or very early april fools joke lol

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

 

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also a Farm build which is why i had Fireball but i just grabbed a build from my list and slapped it on here

 

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Nightchill = 58% for 47 seconds, 41% for 13 seconds = 54% average
Santorican (common IOs changed to level 50) = 94% for 48 seconds, 66% for 12 seconds = 88% average
I dont get it :x