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Thugs/Dark

brophog02

By brophog02,
Posted on: 2010-08-22 21:20 in Masterminds

 

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I'd like to make a thugs/dark build but no clue how to get it started. And I don't much on thugs/dark builds here on the forums.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix View Post
I'd like to make a thugs/dark build but no clue how to get it started. And I don't much on thugs/dark builds here on the forums.
There's no mystery to anything /dark. Take everything in the set, except Black Hole (yes, even Howling Twilight, yes, even if you plan to solo).

Level 1: Call Thugs
Level 6: First upgrade
Level 12: Call Enforcers
Level 18: Gang War
Level 26: Bruiser
Level 32: Second upgrade

At the other levels, you take powers in /dark if there's a new one or pools* if not.

*In lieu of a pool power you can take one of the attacks from the MM primary. I wouldn't, but I'm an extremist.

"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Lord Vetinari, Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett.

 

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It's also nice, while leveling, to take one or two pistol attacks for yourself. Adds damage at low levels while you only have a few pets. This speeds killing speed and leveling, and gives you something to do as well.

Later you can respec out of the personal attacks if you don't need them. I've found starting around level 24 is a good time to consider this.

 

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Can someone post a build so I can have an idea of how to build it?

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nix View Post
Can someone post a build so I can have an idea of how to build it?
Though brophog02 gave you some links. So you know sometimes people appreciate it more if you post a build for others to critique. It makes people feel like your trying to do your part and give others an idea of what your interested in.

I could lay out a defense cap build for you, but if you don't even know what defense cap is or the whole purpose behind the build. You won't have a clue why certain powers were picked over others. Or how to run the build persay.

I made builds that I liked when I first started, but then after so many years I decided to read up on this Defense Cap so many talk about. I became a Defense Cap born again zealot. All my builds lean in that direction now.

So with that all said posting a build and having someone tweak or give you a direction to go to will make you understand a bit about the game mechanics, which are important if you want to last and be useful and honestly enjoy the game a bit more.

1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives

 

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I would appreciate that plainguy of a defense cap build for me.

 

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Here's my Thugs/Dark soft-capped to S/L.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.803
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Natural Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(9), HO:Nucle(11), ExStrk-Dam%(15)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Theft-+End%(43)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(5), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg(9), EndRdx-I(17)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Howling Twilight -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg(A), RzDz-Immob%(17), RzDz-Stun/Rng(46), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(46), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(46)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- HO:Nucle(A), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(29), DefDeb-I(29), LdyGrey-%Dam(40), Achilles-ResDeb%(45)
Level 14: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(42)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctvArm-ResDam(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctvArm-EndRdx(33)
Level 18: Gang War -- ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(A), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(19), EdctM'r-PetDef(19), SvgnRt-PetResDam(21), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(40), P'Shift-End%(40)
Level 22: Fearsome Stare -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(33), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg(34), DarkWD-Slow%(34)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 26: Call Bruiser -- HO:Nucle(A), Dmg-I(27), Dmg-I(27), ExStrk-Dam%(43), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 30: Petrifying Gaze -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(36), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(37), Lock-%Hold(42)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(39), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(39), DarkWD-Slow%(39), Nictus-%Dam(42), Heal-I(43)
Level 41: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- DefBuff-I(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Web Envelope -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(48), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(48), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(50), GravAnch-Hold%(50)
Level 49: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 0: Ninja Run



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This is my first try at it.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.803
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Haze Vapor: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- SvgnRt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SvgnRt-Acc/Dmg(3), SvgnRt-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SvgnRt-Acc/EndRdx(5), SvgnRt-Acc(43), SvgnRt-PetResDam(43)
Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(A), Nictus-Heal(5), Nictus-Acc/Heal(7), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(9), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Nictus-%Dam(46)
Level 2: Tar Patch -- TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A)
Level 4: Darkest Night -- SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-ToHitDeb(11), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg(11), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SipInsght-%ToHit(21), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- BldM'dt-Acc(A), BldM'dt-Dmg(13), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(13), LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(15), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(15), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), LkGmblr-Rchg+(34), LkGmblr-Def(34)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(19), Panac-Heal/+End(19)
Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- Abys-Fear/Rng(A), Abys-Acc/EndRdx(23), Abys-EndRdx/Fear(23), Abys-Acc/Rchg(27), Abys-Dam%(27), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg(33)
Level 22: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(37), Efficacy-EndMod(37)
Level 24: Gang War -- ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(25), ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(25), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(46), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- SW-Def(A), SW-Def/Rchg(36), SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SW-Def/EndRdx(37), SW-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Call Bruiser -- S'bndAl-Dmg(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(29), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg(31), S'bndAl-Build%(31), S'bndAl-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 30: Petrifying Gaze -- UbrkCons-Hold(A), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(36)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(40), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(40), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(42)
Level 38: Dark Servant -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(39), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(39)
Level 41: Howling Twilight -- Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(A), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(42)
Level 44: Web Envelope -- GravAnch-Hold%(A), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(45), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(45), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Scorpion Shield -- SW-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SW-Def(50), SW-Def/Rchg(50), SW-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 4: Ninja Run

 

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Your build doesn't look soft-capped outside of powerboost?

I'm impressed though that you can slot 4 PVP IO's into Scorp Shield (the Shield Wall set ... those would likely bankrupt me).

I like my build

 

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I want my build something like how I made it except I want it softcapped which is difficult to do. It was my first try and making a build for a mastermind.

 

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Anybody there to help me?