Elec/Regen from the options listed. Elec is very far ahead of the rest due to how hard TS can crit. Regen means you don't die unless you do something very wrong.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
Hope TS is not getting nerfed any soon lol.
So... Ninj actually underperforms Regen considering the +Perception and fear/confuse resistance?
50 Ice/Ice/Force Blaster *
50 Ice/Fire/Fire Tanker
50 Kin/Sonic/Power Defender
50 Ice/Storm/Psi Controller
50 Stone/WP/Soul Brute
50 Spines/SR Stalker
Pinnacle | Virtue
@Black Heart
Ninjitsu isn't that bad, but Defense still gets hit pretty hard. Regen has a good number of ways to deal with healing up damage with alternatives to the lack of perception. It also has innate KB protection.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
Quote:
along with +HP and regen barely being touched by DR. i still like WP better though.
|
Originally Posted by Reiraku
Ninjitsu isn't that bad, but Defense still gets hit pretty hard. Regen has a good number of ways to deal with healing up damage with alternatives to the lack of perception. It also has innate KB protection.
|
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
So many things in pvp can destroy a WP or Regens regen ability.
Im surprised its any better then SR either way.
I tend to have more problems with Stalkers that choose secondaries that are SR, EA, and Ninjitsu then I ever do with Elec, WP, or Regen sets.
I tend to play Defenders and I commonly bring -regen powers to pvp.Most wont though.So Regen would be a safer bet.Provided you dont run up agenst a Defender that knows what its doing.
On a side note.Even with DR a DM Stalker would be a bigger issue to deal with reguardless of its secondary armor set.If iv learned anything with my Dark Blasts Defender in pvp.Its that -toHit really urks another player.
Quote:
provided you're a stalker who knows what he's doing, the defender would be an easy target. |
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
So many things in pvp can destroy a WP or Regens regen ability.
I tend to play Defenders and I commonly bring -regen powers to pvp.Most wont though.So Regen would be a safer bet.Provided you dont run up agenst a Defender that knows what its doing. On a side note.Even with DR a DM Stalker would be a bigger issue to deal with reguardless of its secondary armor set.If iv learned anything with my Dark Blasts Defender in pvp.Its that -toHit really urks another player. |
WP doesn't rely on its regen as much as it does it's res and other nice utilities in set as well regen can out regen most -regen effects so that they aren't noticed.
DM is basically only good for lolfiteklub and thats because you can proc slot the **** out of it, the to hit debuff from it and dark blast are about as noticeable as snow storm's -rech. however, darkest night is a different story since it's much higher and causes TS to its target.
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Quote:
Well then, it's a good thing it's not the regeneration that makes those sets good in PvP, amirite? (Protip: it's the heals and MoG that make Regen good, and it's the heal, psi resist, and repel protection that make WP good.)|
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
So many things in pvp can destroy a WP or Regens regen ability.
|
Quote:
| Im surprised its any better then SR either way. |
Quote:
| I tend to have more problems with Stalkers that choose secondaries that are SR, EA, and Ninjitsu then I ever do with Elec, WP, or Regen sets. |
Quote:
| I tend to play Defenders and I commonly bring -regen powers to pvp.Most wont though.So Regen would be a safer bet.Provided you dont run up agenst a Defender that knows what its doing. |
Quote:
| On a side note.Even with DR a DM Stalker would be a bigger issue to deal with reguardless of its secondary armor set.If iv learned anything with my Dark Blasts Defender in pvp.Its that -toHit really urks another player. |
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Regen seems to be the most used and viable choice for a PvP toon, I went to play with my Blaster just to feel what's like now. It's a Archery/EM blaster built for PvE with AoEs and force mastery.
Stalkers had a hard time taking me down solo, it's mostly about AS + Patron ranged powers, I pretty much lol'd about the fact Power Push was so useful and throwing stalkers meters aways is a lot fun and seems like it's tricky to avoid it. About defense, oh... what Elude? This is ridiculous, I could hit like if they were out from it pre I13. Very sad.
So far the only Stalkers hitting very hard was DM with MG, EM and believe or not there were no elec/ stalkers in the zone.
Regen stalkers would just heal themselves and get away to strike again while the others I had no trouble to kill unless they had phase.
I do remember hunting stalkers on my Fire/Cold corruptor in Warburg, regens were my favorite target along with regen scrappers since I would slow them to death.
I have to agree Regen hasn't been touched by DR so much, the -Regen often is pretty meaningless if you have enough heals to keep poping and keeping yourself alive.
So many changes to PvP it's like playing a new game, I do not know what devs wanted with it but I would rather leave it like PvE as much as it was in I6 lol.
So my choice goes to Elec/Regen, I'd appreciate a build if anyone has one!
Thanks a lot guys!
50 Ice/Ice/Force Blaster *
50 Ice/Fire/Fire Tanker
50 Kin/Sonic/Power Defender
50 Ice/Storm/Psi Controller
50 Stone/WP/Soul Brute
50 Spines/SR Stalker
Pinnacle | Virtue
@Black Heart
Quote:
Theres a good possibility that I may have ran into alot of horrible Regen and WP Stalkers.Bad players will play any AT and just fail at them.No way around it.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
provided you're a stalker who knows what he's doing, the defender would be an easy target.
WP doesn't rely on its regen as much as it does it's res and other nice utilities in set as well regen can out regen most -regen effects so that they aren't noticed. DM is basically only good for lolfiteklub and thats because you can proc slot the **** out of it, the to hit debuff from it and dark blast are about as noticeable as snow storm's -rech. however, darkest night is a different story since it's much higher and causes TS to its target. |
Iv noted however that many belive a Defender to be a easy and squishy target in PvP.This isnt entirly true.
Iv hit some Stalkers 5 times and killed them out right on a Dark/Dark Defender.Sure, if they get that AS off, itll hurt, but a heal that heals nearly all my HPs before they finish a Placate and a Crit means they dont get the kill.
I commonly have 3 or more stalkers on me after iv creamed a couple in a zone.Then it becomes a lossing battle for me because I really am a troublsome target to most Stalkers.
Im the first player they come after if other heros huddle around me.
I cant deny that alot of people play Defenders and Stalkers horribly.I just tend to have less problems with Stalkers when im on a Defender.
Havnt tried a Controller in PvP, but im going to try it soon enough.
Quote:
Unless you Defender has outside support, it is going down. Trollers are even easier than a defender. |
Originally Posted by Fire_Minded
Theres a good possibility that I may have ran into alot of horrible Regen and WP Stalkers.Bad players will play any AT and just fail at them.No way around it.
Iv noted however that many belive a Defender to be a easy and squishy target in PvP.This isnt entirly true. Iv hit some Stalkers 5 times and killed them out right on a Dark/Dark Defender.Sure, if they get that AS off, itll hurt, but a heal that heals nearly all my HPs before they finish a Placate and a Crit means they dont get the kill. I commonly have 3 or more stalkers on me after iv creamed a couple in a zone.Then it becomes a lossing battle for me because I really am a troublsome target to most Stalkers. Im the first player they come after if other heros huddle around me. I cant deny that alot of people play Defenders and Stalkers horribly.I just tend to have less problems with Stalkers when im on a Defender. Havnt tried a Controller in PvP, but im going to try it soon enough. |
I mostly play a Spine/WP in PVP and I clean up nicely, only team spikes take me down.
I also have a rad/sonic defender that I PVP'd with but it is so sad compared to my Arch/EM or Sonic/MM blaster that I bounced that Defender out of my PVP line up.
As far as the OPs question I would go with KM/WP now.
And people hate on /ELA with out probably having ever played one. In PVP they are very useful. They have a heal, can't be TP'd, plus Thermals and Colds have nothing on them. Not to mention that with how thin defense can be at least it has good resists. It only lacks +P.
So I just got frustrated playing my Spines/SR which has never been fotm but used to perform very nicely in PvP zones out of Elude but since I13 this stalker just can't do anything solo in RV, anything hits me outside Elude, it sucks, it's broken, SR is terrible now
I do not want a ubber expensive build to be effective so I thought about making a DM/ or Elec/ with either Ninja or Regen secondary.
DM is great 1x1 but it feels like lacking something and feels underpowered when you're in a group.
Sorry about the SR rant... But it used to be okay and it is amazing in PvE esp with aid self.
Any hints? Thanks
50 Ice/Ice/Force Blaster *
50 Ice/Fire/Fire Tanker
50 Kin/Sonic/Power Defender
50 Ice/Storm/Psi Controller
50 Stone/WP/Soul Brute
50 Spines/SR Stalker
Pinnacle | Virtue
@Black Heart