It depends on how you slot out your build and what your primary is. For example, I've got a Spines/WP Scrapper that completely avoided the Fitness Pool thanks to the extremely low Endurance cost of the Spines attacks (with the exception of Quills). Dual Blades isn't too endurance heavy (though not as light as Spines or Claws), so if you slot well you could probably skip the Fitness pool and use Physical Perfection as a place to drop in your healing procs (should you use them). Just my two bits though.
Thanks for the quick reply
Not a problem. Willpower toons are a specialty of mine (most of my melee AT's are WP) so always up to answer questions on the subject, heh.
WP needs all the defense it can get, as well as all +hp and +rgn it can get.
I'd grab the fitness pool, if anything for the mobility and the +rgn in Health
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It doesn't need that, but the more the better of course. That goes for every AT really. My Spines/WP Scrapper does awesome as is, without the Fitness pool, even to the point of playing lead tank on several TF's and mission teams. And he's a Scrapper. So no, saying that WP's "need" all the defenses, +HP and +Regen they can get isn't quite true. To be fair though, it does depend in large part on your slotting and your competence in playing the toon. If you tend to be slow with your attack chains or have the habit of biting off more than you can chew, then yes, you're going to want all the defenses, HP and regen you can get.
| WP needs all the defense it can get, as well as all +hp and +rgn it can get. |
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The idea is to make a toon who can bite and chew through pretty much everything, at least that is my mindset |
Originally Posted by Pyber
If you tend to be slow with your attack chains or have the habit of biting off more than you can chew, then yes, you're going to want all the defenses, HP and regen you can get.
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Health and Stamina will help out A LOT on any melee archetypes. That being said, you don't necessarily need Health and Stamina on a Willpower toon simply because Willpower's got its own "Health" and "Stamina" powers that are superior to those in the Fitness Pool. Willpower does not need a self heal either, although it's still nice to have. Personally, I took Health and Stamina and did not bother to take a self heal; I just use a Respite or the likes when I need to heal, which is rarely.
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Originally Posted by PhantomRanger
I have played mostly invul scrappers and blasters of many types. But I am looking at making a Dual Blade/ Willpower scrapper. I have searched through about 25 pages of the forums and can't find what I am looking for. Does willpower need health and stamina with fast healing and quick recovering?
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Haha, yeah that can be quite true as well, and my SS/WP Brute is definitely designed with that in mind.
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Originally Posted by Silverado
The idea is to make a toon who can bite and chew through pretty much everything, at least that is my mindset
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that Spines has "extremely low Endurance Costs". I could agree its efficient, but when I think of extremely low, I think claws.|
Originally Posted by Pyber
(snip...) thanks to the extremely low Endurance cost of the Spines attacks (with the exception of Quills)
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I would recommend you go and look at the endurance costs of Spines powers, and compare them to some of the other power sets.
Again, I'm not saying spines has high end cost, but I would also not say its extremely low either.
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
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Yeah, all things considered I suppose the use of the word "extremely" may have been a bad choice on my part, heh. And I didn't say it was lower than Claws. Still, you have to admit that most of the powerset does have low Endurance costs attached to it. I'm not even really slotted with Endurance reduction and recovery in mind, but I can run 9 toggles at all times (including all WP toggles, SJ, Focused Accuracy, Quills, Sprint and Tough) while in combat and never run out of Endurance. To be able to do that without Stamina isn't something that many powerset combinations can claim, heh. In PvP its another story though. Due to the loss of a little recovery and the rather precariously balanced Endurance use, when entering RV for example, I wind up with a limited, if long, lifespan when it comes to available Endurance.
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Originally Posted by _Pine_
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Spines has "extremely low Endurance Costs". I could agree its efficient, but when I think of extremely low, I think claws.
I would recommend you go and look at the endurance costs of Spines powers, and compare them to some of the other power sets. Again, I'm not saying spines has high end cost, but I would also not say its extremely low either. |
Does it need them, not necessarily. But trust me, you want them. And yes, Silverado is right on track, you want as much defense as you can pack in. My mains both redside and blue are both /WP toons, a Claws/WP Brute and a FM/WP Scrapper. On both I've managed to softcap S/L/E/N at 45% and there is something magical about running into full +2/x8 spawns and not seeing your blue or green bars move.
You'll love willpower, it's a fast right out of the box and can only get better and better as you layer in (and invest in IO's) defense, resists, HP's and recharge.
I have played mostly invul scrappers and blasters of many types. But I am looking at making a Dual Blade/ Willpower scrapper. I have searched through about 25 pages of the forums and can't find what I am looking for. Does willpower need health and stamina with fast healing and quick recovering?