Help me build dark/dark.


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Keep in mind that you can also slot the Celerity and Unbounded Leap IOs in Sprint. i have a couple flying alts who did that simply because they dropped and the Freebird IO didn't.
Hmm. Sprint isn't insanely expensive or anything, but it's expensive enough that I'd rather not have to keep it up very often. I guess I don't actually have to, though, with the 120-second proc.

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Honestly, none of my alts have ever slotted Hover for endurance reduction, just flight speed, set bonuses and procs.
Yeah. I was just thinking, if I have two of the freebird pieces, the third would give a somewhat handy set bonus.

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As an aside, i really like slotting Dark Servant with a full set of Cloud Senses. It turns him into a debuffing monster with bonus proc damage, and gives some nice set bonuses. The recharge in the set is handy when using Fluffy as an alpha soaker.
Interesting. I don't fully understand how enhancements work on pet powers. The question is firmly moot for a few levels, mind.


 

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Interesting. I don't fully understand how enhancements work on pet powers. The question is firmly moot for a few levels, mind.
If you're slotting for damage on a pet, it effects all power's damage. If you slot accuracy, it effects all their powers with accuracy. If you slot a proc for ranged AoE damage, it'll only effect powers that do a ranged AoE attack.

As such, with Clouded Senses, you'll be raising fluffy's accuracy, to-hit debuff, etc. and giving him a chance to deal damage with a proc when he makes an accuracy to-hit debuff power (from my understanding). This pretty much means everything but auto-hits will effect.

On my Dark/Elec, I went with 5 slotted Siphon Insight with a 6th slot of Deflated Ego recovery debuff. That being said, he's supposed to be a sapper, so having that in Fearsome stare and fluffy ends up being quite useful, as it's a general to-hit debuff set, any power that does to-hit debuff (on fluffy should be near all) have a chance to proc at certain times if close enough to fluffy, gets hit by fluffy, etc.


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As an aside, i really like slotting Dark Servant with a full set of Cloud Senses. It turns him into a debuffing monster with bonus proc damage, and gives some nice set bonuses. The recharge in the set is handy when using Fluffy as an alpha soaker.
Can't get to Mids at the moment, but PWiki says that Fluffy can only accept ToHit Debuff set, not Accurate ToHit Debuff set. Cloud Senses is ATHDB. A little confused here? Or is paragon wiki wrong and forgot to list it? (gasp!) Or any power that can take THDB can automatically take ATHDB? (It splits healing for Fluffy out into specifically saying Healing and Acurrate Healing)

-MT


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I would skip Fearsome Stare for now. Assuming you're spamming TT along with DN and/or Nightfall..you should have enough damage mitigation..

just 6 slot TT when you can, and use it often, maybe slap some damage proc's in too..


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I dunno, a whole lot of people have said FS is the most unambigous "you must take this the moment it's available" power in the set, except maybe Fluffy.

I really like it, just because it pretty much locks down a mid-sized crowd completely for a while, and even after the completely-crippled phase is done, they seem to be under some residual fear or something. Net result is, I have plenty of time to get everything nicely debuffed before anyone's allowed to take actions.


 

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Advise strongly against skipping Fearsome Stare. DN takes too long to cast for most mobs in most door missions. Half the group is dead before it comes out. FS you can use every mob, and it has crowd control via fear and juicy -to hit. Plus, if you just cast FS, you can now cast TT and NF since you have the cone all lined up.

As always YMMV but FS is used much more frequently than DN in my build.

-MT


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I think I'll pretty much keep the build as last discussed for now, possibly moving a slot off one of the low-tier attacks for Hover because the 2-piece set bonus for freebird is actually sorta nice for me, I think. But basically I'm covered.

We'll see how it works out. Hoping to get in enough time this weekend to get Fluffy, which I imagine may substantially alter my play experience when soloing.


 

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Through a variety of lucky salvage drops, I now have petrifying gaze kitted out with three accuracy/hold/recharge and one hold/recharge, giving me a total of 52.6% accuracy and 74.8% each hold and recharge -- meaning the hold time is just shy of twice the recharge time now. Oh, very nice. And fearsome stare has 4/6 Nightmare in it, which gives me +5% accuracy to everything.

One more level to fluffy. And I even have one of the Cloud Senses recipes (yay random drops), so I can find out then whether he takes those.


 

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My only advise from this point on is.... don't try to be everything for your team. You bring alot to the table as a D4, so don't think you need to cover all the bases (like having leadership or recall friend). Plug any holes you find in your build first, then worry about the rest of the team. No teamleader in their right mind is going to turn you away just because you can't stealth a mission or don't have the leadership pool (unless you're on a all leadership theme team).


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Wow. Got 32, got fluffy... It's as though everything in the game just dropped a difficulty level. It's really pretty amazing.

I have noticed that when Fluffy disappears at the end of his alotted time, I nearly always get a message like "<Critter> has defeated Dark Servant". I assume that's just because he died and that was the last thing that hit him?

I did have to go see the tailor, though, to recolor him -- it was Very Annoying having his attacks and mine indistinguishable, and I really liked knowing which targets were in my TT, and which were in his.

Anyway, thanks all for the tips. Got distracted by a bots mastermind, and then a couple of other things, but I am expecting that my dark/dark defender will still be my first 50.


 

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Ahhh, the fluffy, when the warwolves are rampaging, when steel strongman are looking to pound your head, when swarms of CoT are all around, remember to HUG your fluffy! The base -30% PbAoE tohit debuff around your fluffy is golden, or green, or pink, or whatever color you decide. And as a corollary, I always say, slot out your dark servant with tohit debuff enhancers, you will be glad you did.


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It looks like he's getting a Cloud Senses set, at least for now, because I ended up with a couple of the recipes.


 

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It looks like he's getting a Cloud Senses set, at least for now, because I ended up with a couple of the recipes.
An excellent set for the fluffy. Good luck.


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HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.

 

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Wow. Got 32, got fluffy... It's as though everything in the game just dropped a difficulty level. It's really pretty amazing.
That made me giggle because I thought the exact same thing when I got the big bag of shadows on my old DDC. I can't wait to hit 32 (Currently 20) on my D3.

I read this thread all the way through expecting I could offer some small tidbit of advice from what I learned from the DDC-side of things, and ironically enough ended up learning a few things myself to employ when I respec my 'fender in a couple of levels.

Thanks everyone that's posted here, including OP. I haven't played in months, so this was a heck of a refresher course for me to clear out the cobwebs