is the new kinetic set for scrappers looking promising?


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i'm looking forward to some new powersets to play with so i was wondering how the kinetic set looked to be shaping up. also, are there any secondaries that are standing out as the most beneficial for high end performance?

thanks to anybody with any info.


 

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As it stands, no one in closed beta can disclose any info on the new powersets due to the NDA. Sorry to say you'll have to wait till you get an invite to CB or wait for Open Beta.


 

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Also, it's for Scrappers, stalkers, brutes and tankers. Not just scrappers.


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Now we just need a Kinetic Melee/Kinetics hybrid.


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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards View Post
Now we just need a Kinetic Melee/Kinetics hybrid.
I'm still holding out for kinetic control!


 

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yeah, i did get a beta invite but i have no idea how to access it. i tried to follow the instructions but i just couldn't get it to work =/ guess i'm too dumb to get the scoop ahead of time.

also, i know the set is for tanks, brutes and stalkers as well but i'm making a scrapper, hence the post under the scrapper section. but i guess i'm not making it til GR goes live....


 

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yeah, i did get a beta invite but i have no idea how to access it. i tried to follow the instructions but i just couldn't get it to work =/ guess i'm too dumb to get the scoop ahead of time.

also, i know the set is for tanks, brutes and stalkers as well but i'm making a scrapper, hence the post under the scrapper section. but i guess i'm not making it til GR goes live....
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Originally Posted by chief_beef View Post
yeah, i did get a beta invite but i have no idea how to access it. i tried to follow the instructions but i just couldn't get it to work =/ guess i'm too dumb to get the scoop ahead of time.

also, i know the set is for tanks, brutes and stalkers as well but i'm making a scrapper, hence the post under the scrapper section. but i guess i'm not making it til GR goes live....

If you were invited to the beta you have access to the closed portion of the forums. Check there.


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Stuff I have seen on youtube looks like it will be decent for Scrappers, but downright terrible for Brutes.

The Animations are long, and it relies on Siphon Power rather then Build Up. Because Damage buffs work better for Scraps then Brutes, an Brutes really like sets with fast animations, Kin Melee is shaping up to definitely be a Scrap set, and a Stalk set.


 

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I'm guessing it's very kb heavy?


 

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Not from what i've seen. Just KD.


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I'm guessing it's very kb heavy?
It looks like knock down in the videos


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To me, it looked pretty bad on that old youtube video : the animations were way too long. The set looked really slow for a scrapper or brute, and did not feel like "melee" at all.

(Here is the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQPqPwayfI)

We have to wait for the end of the NDA to know the real stats of the set, as well as the opinion of the beta testers on it. Some things may have changed since this video was released.


 

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It's my birthday today! Gimmie Kinetic Melee early!


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To me, it looked pretty bad on that old youtube video : the animations were way too long. The set looked really slow for a scrapper or brute, and did not feel like "melee" at all.

(Here is the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQPqPwayfI)

We have to wait for the end of the NDA to know the real stats of the set, as well as the opinion of the beta testers on it. Some things may have changed since this video was released.
They mentioned it was a rough demo, they didn't even have a electric control video.I think it'll be improved.(animation time wise)


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They mentioned it was a rough demo, they didn't even have a electric control video.I think it'll be improved.(animation time wise)
There was a video recently posted on Youtube that showed the entire animations of all Kinetic Melee and Electric Control. Kinetic Melee's animations are still incredibly long.


 

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There was a video recently posted on Youtube that showed the entire animations of all Kinetic Melee and Electric Control. Kinetic Melee's animations are still incredibly long.
From watching the videos (I haven't gotten my beta invite yet damnit) that's my impression... most of the animations seem to be in the Total Focus range for duration. Maybe those are all dated and the final animations will be on par length wise with existing sets but from what I see in the videos I'm not impressed.


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Why have the devs suddenly decided, "HEY GUYS, LETS GIVE POWERSETS LONG ANIMATION TIMES." Pistols AND Kinetic melee? Really Devs?


 

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Why have the devs suddenly decided, "HEY GUYS, LETS GIVE POWERSETS LONG ANIMATION TIMES." Pistols AND Kinetic melee? Really Devs?
To appeal to players who don't care whether their power takes 5 years to activate or not, probably. Speaking for my own server, there are a lot of them.

They also probably want to make the set thematic, otherwise they'd get complaints about how ugly it is.


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Some players seem to care more about a new set's flashiness. But word-to-mouth information travels fast also, especially when a set is known to underperform. And I cant say I've seen recently half the number of dual pistol characters I would have expected from a recent set.

On the other hand a set like /Shield, which is widely known to outperfom once IOed, looks more popular every day in the game.

I think a powerset with high performance gonna be more popular on the long term than a flashy one, even among players who are not versed into optimization. Flashiness and style can be short term factors that matter, but eventually most people get used to them. I'm pretty sure it would be a bad move from the devs if they made Kinetic Melee a DP equivalent, with long animations and subpar DPA. Many players would say they like it at first, but they would also bury it one month later.


 

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Originally Posted by Angelwing View Post
To appeal to players who don't care whether their power takes 5 years to activate or not, probably. Speaking for my own server, there are a lot of them.

They also probably want to make the set thematic, otherwise they'd get complaints about how ugly it is.
If they wanted to make it Thematic, they would make it super fast... Thats the whole reason many of us play Kinetics anyways!


 

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My /real/ issue is that it's paired conceptual love-mate secondary is only available to Brutes. Bring EA blueside, devs!


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My /real/ issue is that it's paired conceptual love-mate secondary is only available to Brutes. Bring EA blueside, devs!
Addendum - Fix it first, please!


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