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Spines is great AOE with one of the worse single target damage chain of scrappers|
Originally Posted by HiddenJackal
I was looking for a good solid build, possibly to solo AVs with, and was wondering if either of those two paired with DA would be able to solo an AV? I do plan on IOing them out heavily as well.
Also, for a quick comparison...Spines is a much better single target with decent AOE than spines, and spines is a much better AOE with decent ST, correct? |
Claws is really good ST and decent AOE
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Claws/DA might be able to.
Probably not gonna happen with Spines.
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Claws, definitely. Spines has such poor DPS I'm quite sure it can't solo AVs with any S/L resistance. Especially when you first need to bump up Dark's survivability to withstand an AV hitting you, you'll have very little room to make Spines' single target much better.
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Spines has, compared to other primaries, poor single target damage. I'd not pick that. I'm also not sure you'd like /DA for AVs. It's best damage "mitigation" is it's heal, which must roll to hit and ideally needs to hit 3+ foes to full heal. I found /DA to be poor in AV and EB situations compared to other secondaries. /DA shines vs large packs of easier targets. Also vs psi damage and end drains. I'm not saying it can't work, just that I think other options are better.
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I've had some success with a DB/ELA that had around 28ish defense to all positions, without insps. It wasn't fantastic, but still, as that alt was based around *using* insps, that it could solo some AVs at all was interesting. A claws/DA would be relatively similar ; smaller res numbers, higher def numbers, faster recharging heal, harder end management - overall I think it'd be a better toon (than DB/ELA) as claws is light on end and CP/PP can do the trick.
Focusing the build on it, you could build for S/L softcap and be fine against many AVs without insps.
You'd have a greater chance of getting the markets merged than killing an AV with a Spines/Dark. 
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Which, with the recent news, is a cunning way to say it's possible but takes a lot of work. Clever. 
It is possible but you'd have to fight a very weak AV and or have a lot of time on your hands lol
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well you're gonna have 2 damage aura.... add that on top of your ST damage and...
ahhh never mind
spines is better at multiple minions and lt's with a boss or two. It's not the best or very effective at hard single targets as others have said.
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Claws/DA, with out question.
I concur with others here, Dark Armor is not the best choice for soloing AVs. It can be done on IO build, assuming you could afford it.
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Claw/DA not so much, a Kat/DA or BS/DA with the Parry/Divine spam that is if the AV stays melee with you, then it'd be very possible.
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I was looking for a good solid build, possibly to solo AVs with, and was wondering if either of those two paired with DA would be able to solo an AV? I do plan on IOing them out heavily as well.
Also, for a quick comparison...Spines is a much better single target with decent AOE than spines, and spines is a much better AOE with decent ST, correct?