New Player, Questions about enhancements
"Good" is so subjective that it would be difficult or impossible to fully answer the question. Single-origin (SOs) enhancements are, to my mind, the point at which they become worth paying for, but others' mileage will vary. From there, the sky is nearly the limit.
Generally speaking, you'll be able to buy SOs beginning around level 25, from stores and contacts in the zones appropriate to that level. For (significantly) more extensive info, check here, with prices listed here.
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Hi, I'm new.
I was wondering what the average cost of the "good" enhancements are.. Where can I buy these? I'm a technology Corruptor. |
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The "good" ones can be very expensive. Since you're new, I wouldn't worry about these just yet. It can be a long, involved process learning the ins and outs of them, so you should probably learn the game first before you dive into them. Set Enhancements are a matched set of up to 6 enhancements that all have a special name, like Positron's Blast or Crushing Impact. They usually enhance more than one aspect of a power, like accuracy and damage, or accuracy, damage, and recharge. You can only slot one of each in any given power (so you can't slot 6 Positron's Blast Accuracy/Damage/Recharge enhancements), but you CAN slot multiple sets in a power (so you can slot Crushing Impact Accuracy/Damage, Mako's Bite Accuracy/Damage, and Touch of Death Accuracy/Damage). That is called frankenslotting. Multiple enhancements of the same set will grant you set bonuses, which are bonuses that affect all your powers, or give you bonuses to various things (like more HP or endurance recovery).
Generic Invention enhancements go for much less, they can be bought from Invention tables in the University in Cap Au Diable or the Abandoned Labs scattered around the zones. They are more expensive than Single Origins, but (usually) less expensive than Set Enhancements.
The difference beween SOs (Single Origin) and IOs (Invention Origin) is that SOs will eventually wear out, while IOs will stay the same forever. Enhancements can be slotted when you are 3 levels below the level of the enhancement, so if you are level 22 you can slot level 25 enhancements (this is true of ALL enhancements). Training, Dual, and Single Origin enhancements will get less effective as you level, and when you get 3 levels above the level of the enhancement they will turn red and stop working.
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A historical note: for the first few years, there was only one system of enhancements: the type you buy from stores in game, with TO's, DO's and SO's. Enhancements were really tough to buy until about level 32, at which point your income rose much faster than the cost of enhancements . At that point there was really nothing to do with spare inf so people would give it away to lowbies. (Your first set of SO's at 22 costs a million, more or less; your last set at 47 costs around 5 million. You need to replace about every 5 levels.)
Then the Invention System was added in issue 9. People bought the "best stuff" as it dropped, and so all this useless money actually started circulating. People were spending hundreds of millions of inf at the market, and a lot of that was going to low level characters. Prices at the market have gone up even higher- which is great if you're selling.
My suggestion is that you start out buying SO's, which work fine*, and selling all your salvage and recipes at the Auction House(except the generic ones, which have names like Invention: Damage), listing them at low prices. The system is "lowest sale goes to highest bid" so they'll sell fast and if it's a REALLY good item you'll still get a pretty good price. You will give people lots of bargains, but you will have more money than you can ever spend on SO's. You can learn about inventions when you're ready. Everybody wins.
* The devs did not make the game any harder when they introduced IO's, and we played on SO's just fine. There's about one thing in the IO system that I would say is "necessary", and that's knockback protection for blasters.
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Some great IOs sell for nothing. Some crap IOs sell for tons because they are in sets with great bonuses.
Do the SOs, then use IOs to Frankenslot or just make sets. But, bear in mind that some sets suck but have great bonus, and vise versa. The ones that tend to not suck in either direction tend to be pricey.
That said there is a Dam/Rech glut on some sets becuase they drop so much. You'll pay 6m for an Acc/Dam and then pick up the Dam/Rech for one. Not 1m but just one.
You can also make scads of money off people on the market too.
Another thing now that IOs have been mentioned: there are IOs, and there are IO sets. IOs are straight bonuses to a power - Accuracy, Damage, what have you. IO SETS are a different animal, the one that everyone else has rightly implied can get very expensive, offer a) multifaceted bonuses (+Accuracy and +Damage, for example), and b) set bonuses that often get applied to the ENTIRE character when you have two or more of the same SET in one power. My favorite example (yes, one of the expensive ones ) is the Ranged attack IO set, Devastation, which you can look over here. This set also has an example of a proc in it (the Chance for Hold), which means that, with that specific IO installed, the ranged attack it's on has a chance to hold the target, in addition to its normal effects.
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On the topic of IO sets - I'm quite certain it's been covered somewhere, but if you decide to get the IO sets, try to compare the bonuses with different sets.
Let's say that I've got a fire blaster and a fire tank.
Both have Fire Sword Circle, which is PBAoE Melee.
Does the tank need mez protection? as a rule, no. So why would the tank go with a set that provided some status protection? Ordinarily, a tank probably would not go for that set - unless the other bonuses were hard to pass up. Increasing attack rate by 9% of ALL powers seems pretty nice to me. But, if you keep looking, you might find a set that provides 7% increase in recharge speed, and a 5% increase in accuracy/to-hit of all powers.
So, without getting in too deep, just remember to think ahead and try to get a feel for which IO recipes/enhancements that you'd like that will fit your character.
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On the topic of IO sets - I'm quite certain it's been covered somewhere, but if you decide to get the IO sets, try to compare the bonuses with different sets.
Let's say that I've got a fire blaster and a fire tank. Both have Fire Sword Circle, which is PBAoE Melee. Does the tank need mez protection? as a rule, no. So why would the tank go with a set that provided some status protection? Ordinarily, a tank probably would not go for that set - unless the other bonuses were hard to pass up. Increasing attack rate by 9% of ALL powers seems pretty nice to me. But, if you keep looking, you might find a set that provides 7% increase in recharge speed, and a 5% increase in accuracy/to-hit of all powers. So, without getting in too deep, just remember to think ahead and try to get a feel for which IO recipes/enhancements that you'd like that will fit your character. |
I do agree that as a new player you're better off not worrying about IO sets now... the basic SO enhancements you can buy at the store work fine and are MUCH less complicated. Once you have a firm grasp of the game you can start thinking about IO sets, but those can get extremely complex in a big hurry. You can be perfectly adequate in the game all the way to 50 with just the standard SO enhancements... after all for the first several years of the game's existence that's all we had.
I'd guess that probably 50% of the players in the game still use SO enhancements the whole way to 50 and they do ok. True, a really good IO set build is more effective but that's something to worry about once you aren't still learning the basics. You'll spend maybe 5 minutes every few levels buying enhancements with SO's... a good IO build takes many hours of bidding on items, crafting and slotting.
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You can also get standard (non-set) IOs, which at the higher end are slightly better than SOs, and also cost far less on the market than the sets do.
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Not meaning to Necro, but I was wondering at what level the standard IO's out perform SO's?
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At level 25 a standard IO gives 32%, just under an even SO. At 30 it goes up to 34.8% where a single SO is at 33%
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Thank you, so at lvl 32 using IO's instead of lvl 35 SO's would be much better it seems.
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Not meaning to Necro, but I was wondering at what level the standard IO's out perform SO's?
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Hi, I'm new.
I was wondering what the average cost of the "good" enhancements are.. Where can I buy these?
I'm a technology Corruptor.