Glowie Completion Mission in Arcs


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I would love to see a feature added that allowed only the mission holder the ability to complete a mission with a click object. Would prevent other players from finishing a mission said owner isn't ready to complete.

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While they're not going to go out of their way to stop you from non-exploit (intended or not) farming, I don't think they're going to go out of their way to enable it, either.


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Someone ruin your farm map?


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Personally, I WOULD love that. I consider it really bad form to take other people's glowies on their own mission, but far too many people don't share my sentiment, and quite a few ignore my requests to let me grab them even when I remember to ask them. Having an option that force-locked glowies to the mission owner only would be pretty cool.


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Not exactly what he's asking for, Sam. He's wanting a glowie on every mission that must be clicked by the leader to finish the mission. His sole concern is protecting his farming missions from someone (accidentally or on purpose) actually finishing the mission as intended.


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Originally Posted by Kinetic Char View Post
I would love to see a feature added that allowed only the mission holder the ability to complete a mission with a click object. Would prevent other players from finishing a mission said owner isn't ready to complete.

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Welcome to the forums.

Anyway, how often has this been a problem?
If you truly are farming, as some posters have assumed, then I would recommend not adding random strangers to your team (they just suck up loot drops, lowering your wealth/hr ratio) and just using the difficulty sliders to pump up the spawn sizes. "Padding" or "Filling" is dead.

The first downside I see is having an AFK mission holder sitting around preventing the team from continuing play. Often, PuG-leaders only want to do thier own missions (screw everyone else out of merits, eh?), so the AFK mission-holder would thus be unkickable. But this would probably be an uncommon occurance.


 

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Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
Not exactly what he's asking for, Sam. He's wanting a glowie on every mission that must be clicked by the leader to finish the mission. His sole concern is protecting his farming missions from someone (accidentally or on purpose) actually finishing the mission as intended.
Why are you so sure he's asking because of farms? I've encountered people (mostly RPers) who really hate when other people click their glowies.

I don't see how the occasional farm mission *not* accidentally being completed is a reason to not add this.


 

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Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
Not exactly what he's asking for, Sam. He's wanting a glowie on every mission that must be clicked by the leader to finish the mission. His sole concern is protecting his farming missions from someone (accidentally or on purpose) actually finishing the mission as intended.
a well built farming character shouldn't need anyone else on the map.


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I can actually see this being detrimental in certain situations.

The other day I was on a team running Black Scorpions arc. For one mission we had to escort a Crey agent to a computer. The mission was filled with Malta though and after rescuing said agent a huge ambush spawned. Now this was one of those combat allies so it eagerly jumped into battle against the Malta and was very close to dying a couple of times. Most of the team had either gone down or was about too, then I had the thought to TP the guy to the computer completing the mission.

Everyone cheered and I managed to save the mission from failure.

With the op's idea in place, I wouldn't be able to cause mission complete and we would have failed the mission.


 

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If this were a "Toggle On/Off" option, and the mission holder in your example had chosen to turn it on, it would be solely thier fault for turning on the "Only mission holder can interact with objectives" option and causing the failure.

Anyway, while we discuss whether or not the suggestion would be detrimental, I'm waiting for the OP to elaborate on the severity or frequency of the problem that it would solve. Hopefully, it won't be another 6 years until his next post.


 

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That still causes a mission failure. And while the leader would be solely responsible for it, the team still suffers lower end of mission rewards because of the failure.


 

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Clebstein wonders:

Why are you so sure he's asking because of farms? I've encountered people (mostly RPers) who really hate when other people click their glowies.
I concede the possibility, but his wording is more about completing the mission than clicking glowies.

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I don't see how the occasional farm mission *not* accidentally being completed is a reason to not add this.
**shuffles through the double negatives**

More of a reason not to add this is that it would likely have to be applied system wide and make a pointless glowie/switch added for most people to have to click to finish their missions. Not that it's a huge deal to click another box, but to add something like that in for the use of the few times it's needed sound like overkill to me.

EDIT: Toggle off/on as BBQ suggests would alleviate this problem, though, if they could implement it that way.


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Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
Not exactly what he's asking for, Sam. He's wanting a glowie on every mission that must be clicked by the leader to finish the mission. His sole concern is protecting his farming missions from someone (accidentally or on purpose) actually finishing the mission as intended.
Actually, look at the phrasing of the original post:

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I would love to see a feature added that allowed only the mission holder the ability to complete a mission with a click object.
You seem to parse this as requesting that all missions be completed "with a click objective," whereas I think it's talking about completing missions that happen to have a click objective as part of their normal setup. As in, "allow only the mission holder to complete missions which have a click objective in them." Which, by the way, is a reasonable request, even if not a very high-priority one.

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Would prevent other players from finishing a mission said owner isn't ready to complete.
This doesn't necessarily reference farms, because there are more reasons than farming to want to NOT have your mission completed by somebody else. The easiest example of this is stealthing Stalkers who, despite being asked not to, feel it is their duty and their right to stealth their way to an objective and click it, completing the mission without the mission holder having any input on his own mission. Furthermore, people have the unpleasant habit of vacating the instance very millisecond that a mission is complete, whereas the team leader may wish to at least finish off the spawns in the room, or perhaps at least get a word in edge-wise before half the team ejects out of the mission.

As for me, I prefer to let the mission holder be the one to "push the button," as it were. It's his mission, it's his story, it's his right to have the last word in it. When this is non-problematic, as clicking a glowie is, I see this as only common courtesy, so an option to be set by the mission owner is only fair.

And if it causes a mission failure, then I can live with that.


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