Of course. Although curious to see how they'd deal with the tier 9.
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Hmm.... PBAOE? Targeted AOE? Can't imagine it would be too hard. The end costs would have to be adjusted as always for the set.
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My first corruptor was made to be /poison, until I realized it was mastermind only.
I'd like it, but I have to note the set could use a look over. Radiation gets a lot of the same debuffage, but in AoE form. It kills bosses well, but it's not so good at survival vs. larger groups. The poison trap is a bit of a head-scratcher, and the tier 9 could be re-jiggered a bit. It's low duration with long recharge makes me wonder.
But thematically? What's wore corrupting than vile toxins and goop? ...Slowly poisoning an enemy to death? Yes please.
Me. I wants it.
It needs work though.
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I'm trying to use the set on masterminds but it isn't easy - the end costs are huge for the first 3 powers, being single target and all. Granted, I'm only level 10...
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I can totally understand wanting Poison for concept.
Every time this topic comes up, though, I marvel that anyone would want it for much of anything else. It it really only excels at single targets, and I just can't see that as especially valuable given how excessively AoE-centric the game has turned out to be. Its only area powers are Neurotoxic Breath (which is great, but not by itself sufficient to prop up a set), Poison Trap (legendarily awful), and Noxious Gas (also great, but unenhanceable and on a 5-minute timer).
It works okay for masterminds because they're masterminds and can turtle behind a portable wall of beef. Unless you're ninja/poison, in which case I feel your pain. I don't see it being decent for any other archetype without serious revision.
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I'd like it, but I have to note the set could use a look over. Radiation gets a lot of the same debuffage, but in AoE form. It kills bosses well, but it's not so good at survival vs. larger groups.
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EDIT: Also, i second what Wonderslug said.
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This expresses all of my opinions on Poison for Corruptors. Good thematically, horrible mechanically.
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I can totally understand wanting Poison for concept.
Every time this topic comes up, though, I marvel that anyone would want it for much of anything else. It it really only excels at single targets, and I just can't see that as especially valuable given how excessively AoE-centric the game has turned out to be. Its only area powers are Neurotoxic Breath (which is great, but not by itself sufficient to prop up a set), Poison Trap (legendarily awful), and Noxious Gas (also great, but unenhanceable and on a 5-minute timer). It works okay for masterminds because they're masterminds and can turtle behind a portable wall of beef. Unless you're ninja/poison, in which case I feel your pain. I don't see it being decent for any other archetype without serious revision. |
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I have it on my necromancy mastermind. While a joy vs. bosses, almost all of gameplay is against groups. In such cases the poisoner is a nice 'boss killer' backup support character, but can hardly be relied on to be the sole suport character. I cludged to 38 to finally get my tier 9, and try to make a fair evaluation...and the set needs help. It's meant to be the 'hard hitting' debuffer, but it seems that the set's designer was reticent to crank the values up.|
Originally Posted by JayboH
I'm trying to use the set on masterminds but it isn't easy - the end costs are huge for the first 3 powers, being single target and all. Granted, I'm only level 10...
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weaknesses of the set:
- Alkaloid is slow to land on its target, so 'split second heals' must be planned in advance.
- Envenom does not stack, but has the same -res as other -res AoE debuffs, and its -regen does not stack. (compare to /dark's heal with the same -regen, which can fire every 8 seconds.)The -heal is nice, but limited in utility.
- The poison trap is awkward to leverage in an otherwise all ranged set...the sleep is breakable, the endurance drain impotent. I get the feeling this should have been the power to mitigate vs. large mobs, like the /traps counterpart...it is instead quite ineffectuale. It puts the poisoner in undue risk with scant mitigation for toe-bombing, has a tiny trigger area if you pull into it, and the main mitigation-sleep...only happens at the beginning, so extras that come through the area are unphased by it.
- Noxious gas is a small AoE debuff on a 5 minute timer that lasts 45 seconds, and is dependant on the survival of its anchor.
Yeah, it could be tweaked even for masterminds at that rate.
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I always thought they gave Poison to MM because Rad might be to powerful for them. It is kinda like the same way they gave Brute EA and not Ice Armor.
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Originally Posted by Mod_Noc
I always thought they gave Poison to MM because Rad might be to powerful for them. It is kinda like the same way they gave Brute EA and not Ice Armor.
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I'll echo the sentiments here that Posion needs help.
It seems to have a bunch of single target debuffs that arent particularly stronger (in fact often weaker) than AoE counterparts in other sets. Its often referred to as a "king of ST debuffs" but I've never seen that myself in 35 levels of play (admittedly with Ninjas...)
Anyone wanting to make a Poison-themed Corrupter would be better of taking Radiation Emission and colouring it green IMHO.
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I'm trying to use the set on masterminds but it isn't easy - the end costs are huge for the first 3 powers, being single target and all. Granted, I'm only level 10...
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To put this level of dissapointment into perspective, I actually played through 49 levels since I hate farming. But maybe it would be better on a corruptor....
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I'll echo the sentiments here that Posion needs help.
It seems to have a bunch of single target debuffs that arent particularly stronger (in fact often weaker) than AoE counterparts in other sets. Its often referred to as a "king of ST debuffs" but I've never seen that myself in 35 levels of play (admittedly with Ninjas...) Anyone wanting to make a Poison-themed Corrupter would be better of taking Radiation Emission and colouring it green IMHO. |
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I am hoping to see this sent to corruptors someday. I could see them sending /ff but only mms have it so far, and 3 ATs have /ff already.
Anyone else?
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