Of Respecs and IO Sets...One possibility


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Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
Thread-merging seriously needs to be looked into for these boards, especially this one. I think that's going to be my "dead horse" I keep trotting out.
I disagree. I think a better option than thread merging is people quit being morons and ******** everytime a dead horse gets brought up. I mean, all of yall should be smart enough to realize that if people don't post in these thread then they will go away. Then again, yall are stupid enough to think complaining about the threads does any good, so maybe everyone is too stupid and idiotic to actually ignore these threads. Either that or yall are whiney like a bunch of six year old girls.

Also, person I'm quoting, this wasn't directed at you specifically. It was directed at anybody that comes to these dead horse topics and complains. Honestly it makes me wonder if the internet is 90% six year girls.


 

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First few I came across I "fought". Now just the mention of it makes me skip the thread entirely (unless I become bored and have read all the unread stuff I was interested in).

I do think people need to be told "No" in dead horse threads rather than just ignored, though. But there's enough around who will that I don't need to bother.


Dec out.

 

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Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina View Post
From a market point of view, hoarding in slots is essentially the same as hoarding and not selling.
No, this would be USING the IO's. Respecs aside, once these are slotted they are permanently removed from circulation. Hoarding implies they are still available to use or sell.

If we were able to remove the low level IO's to replace them with high level IO's most people would keep those low IO's handy for their next character to use, rather than sell them. THAT's hoarding.

This removes the need for the user to purchase more, meaning less INF destroyed, prices plummet because of over supply. We are still generating these, but everyone has a few sets hoarded for their low characters so don't need to buy them.


 

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First few I came across I "fought". Now just the mention of it makes me skip the thread entirely (unless I become bored and have read all the unread stuff I was interested in).
Boredom is usually what gets me to post in most of the dead horse topics too. I read and participate in these threads for pure entertainment value.


 

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I disagree. I think a better option than thread merging is people quit being morons and ******** everytime a dead horse gets brought up. I mean, all of yall should be smart enough to realize that if people don't post in these thread then they will go away. Then again, yall are stupid enough to think complaining about the threads does any good, so maybe everyone is too stupid and idiotic to actually ignore these threads.
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No, this would be USING the IO's. Respecs aside, once these are slotted they are permanently removed from circulation. Hoarding implies they are still available to use or sell.

If we were able to remove the low level IO's to replace them with high level IO's most people would keep those low IO's handy for their next character to use, rather than sell them. THAT's hoarding.

This removes the need for the user to purchase more, meaning less INF destroyed, prices plummet because of over supply. We are still generating these, but everyone has a few sets hoarded for their low characters so don't need to buy them.
I'm guessing that those arguing with me aren't particularly into marketeering...

First, respecs aside is a funny thing to say since it's pretty much the core of the question.

Second, hoarding and using are both supply issues. If some can't understand this, then it's obvious you are speaking a whole other language. It's like trying to rebut my statements about C# development by arguing that voice coaches are expensive. Words mean many things. But most arguments Internet and otherwise get dominated by petty pedantry because people would rather pretend that using a dictionary made them win, rather than thinking about the purposes and ideas behind others' points of view.

Third, the suggestion here would lead to mass hoarding, but not in the way some said. It would make much easier to use slots to hoard. Bases would not even be necessary. Coming back to this a week later, I thought this was that topic about getting 20 instead of 10 after a respec. Oops, wrong topic! Regardless, my initial involvement was simply to rebut a market statement:

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Horsepuckey. What will really happen is that players will use respecs to rip out their current IO's and email them to a mule character which will store them in base storage. This will in turn make desirable IO's harder to find on the market because everyone will be hoarding them, and their absence will cause market prices to become even more inflated.
This is obviously an inconsistent argument. You either have A, IOs kept off market and in slots, or B, IOs kept off market and in bases. There is no way to argue that it would decrease supply, and THAT is the whole point I was getting at (in case my repeated statements that this is from a market point of view or hoarding and using are equivalent in this argument didn't get the case across).

At the time that I first posted here, there were numerous statements going around misidentifying IO-locking as an inf sink. It's instead supply sink, and those who are saying that the suggestion posted here would drop mid level prices are correct.

From this simple rebuttal to a market assertion, I got Project reading between the lines for what I'm actually thinking about, incorrectly (I never even considered that), and LISAR's assessment of Bill's post's appropriateness to high school English classes. Internet arguments FTW!

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This post tests at a grade 9 reading level. If you have an issue with it you should consider some night classes.

Bill you get a cookie.
Obviously, this is a compelling point. Due to my poor English skills, I was unaware that hoarding and using were mutually exclusive, and that using a slot is most definitely using only. Let it never be said that words can refer to different ideas, or that things that are one word can be another word too.

Anyway, I've got some HOs sitting in my sprint powers I have to go sell.


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