Building a new rig.
By
Back_Blast,
Posted on: 2010-05-20 08:35 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
I suggest you start by looking in Father Xmas' signature. There you can find 2 builds, one priced at 1375 $.
*nod* Check out FatherXmas's lists. For the heck of it, I'll point out mine came in just in between the two. Other than the video card acting flaky for a bit (RMA'd, replaced by XFX) it's been pretty solid.
You rang.
Currently not excited by nVidia's offerings. They are still charging a premium for PhysX support. Add to that the fact the GTX 4xx line are horrible power hogs, that they have a huge gap in their lineup between the GTX 260 and the GTX 470, in both price and performance (GTX 465 is supposedly on it's way), it makes the basic HD 5850 a best buy anyway you slice it.
CPU wise I agree with you. Intel simply has the fastest CPUs on the market. The i5-750 quad performs almost as well as AMD's top offerings and most of Intel's older socket 775 quads. And that's the low end i5/i7 quad, they only get better from there.
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I guess I've always leaned towards Nvidia because I had bad experiences with some old ATI cards of mine. I haven't used any since my ATI X850. It also had a lot of issues with CoH at the time, which was the majority of what I played. That and I've been using a GTX 260 and love it. Best bang for my buck I've ever had and no issues.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
You rang.
Currently not excited by nVidia's offerings. They are still charging a premium for PhysX support. Add to that the fact the GTX 4xx line are horrible power hogs, that they have a huge gap in their lineup between the GTX 260 and the GTX 470, in both price and performance (GTX 465 is supposedly on it's way), it makes the basic HD 5850 a best buy anyway you slice it. CPU wise I agree with you. Intel simply has the fastest CPUs on the market. The i5-750 quad performs almost as well as AMD's top offerings and most of Intel's older socket 775 quads. And that's the low end i5/i7 quad, they only get better from there. |
Do you really recommend going ATI as well? I am torn between spending the money on an I7 capable MB, and the ensuing cost of DDR3 ram and all that, instead of just getting a Core 2 Quad or something.
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I more or less built the same rig you had. Although I got the XFX 5830 card. I ended up with the i7 920 and a more expensive asus board.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
You rang.
Currently not excited by nVidia's offerings. They are still charging a premium for PhysX support. Add to that the fact the GTX 4xx line are horrible power hogs, that they have a huge gap in their lineup between the GTX 260 and the GTX 470, in both price and performance (GTX 465 is supposedly on it's way), it makes the basic HD 5850 a best buy anyway you slice it. CPU wise I agree with you. Intel simply has the fastest CPUs on the market. The i5-750 quad performs almost as well as AMD's top offerings and most of Intel's older socket 775 quads. And that's the low end i5/i7 quad, they only get better from there. |
I am rather surprised at the lack of performance I get though.
I have a computer with a GTX 260 and much older parts but it seems to run just as fast.
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May have at least a little to do with the fact that a 5830 is pretty much on par performance-wise with the GTX 260 and 275. It's technically better since it supports the newer DX and OGL standards but otherwise there isn't much notable difference.
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Originally Posted by Vejita
I more or less built the same rig you had. Although I got the XFX 5830 card. I ended up with the i7 920 and a more expensive asus board.
I am rather surprised at the lack of performance I get though. I have a computer with a GTX 260 and much older parts but it seems to run just as fast. |
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If I crossfired two of them together, would it provide a notable improvement?
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Originally Posted by Back_Blast
May have at least a little to do with the fact that a 5830 is pretty much on par performance-wise with the GTX 260 and 275. It's technically better since it supports the newer DX and OGL standards but otherwise there isn't much notable difference.
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I would stick to just a few basics:
Asus or MSI motherboard
High quality Power supply as these 2 items are the heart of the machine - this one rocks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006.
Then a top quality memory like Mushkin, Corsair or Crucial (I like A-data as well).
The case is also important as it can last for YEARS. I like Aluminium cases like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&name=Aluminum
I like the Thermaltake cases but a LOT of good ones out there - get a case with plenty of room for ventilation and ease of servicing.
AMD or Intel honestly doesn't matter much. Intel has the faster ones at this time but AMD is quite cheap and also fine.
Hard drive - I always use a Raptor on a gaming rig. This is also a nice drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145315
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Originally Posted by Vejita
If I crossfired two of them together, would it provide a notable improvement?
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Crossfire or SLI does actual very little to boost frame rates:
This might help you:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...lock,2625.html - crossfire provides depth to play games at reasonable framerates at high resolution.
If you play them at a lower resolution a single card is more than adequate.
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Usually playing at 1920x1080.
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
No.
Crossfire or SLI does actual very little to boost frame rates: This might help you: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...lock,2625.html - crossfire provides depth to play games at reasonable framerates at high resolution. If you play them at a lower resolution a single card is more than adequate. |
At that resolution and assuming the settings were cranked to the max, maybe it would help some. However as CoH doesn't presently support Crossfire, it's a moot point. There is a switch to force SLI support but I haven't heard of one for Crossfire. That said, the forced SLI switch is not officially supported and I'm not sure how strong the SLI support it gives is so I don't know that it even accomplishes very much. Presumably at some point they will get formal suport for SLI and Crossfire in but until then, single-card setups are the way to go.
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I have 1300 dollars to build a new gaming rig and since there are more than a few tech experts here, I thought I'd ask if anyone had any advice.
I am leaning towards Nvidia graphics card and intel cpu. I only need to build the basic core system. I already have all the peripherals and monitor and all that. I already have 2 systems in mind built in wish list on Newegg but I wanted to get some advice here as well.