Staminaless Fire/Regen?


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Hi.

Can I go staminaless on a Fire/Regen Scrapper and not suck (wind, me sucking is inevitable).

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I finally messed around with my Fire/Regen build (after what I spec'ed it into for i13) and current build hits >4.00 EPS recovery with only QR.

To put that in perspective, a Regen with QR and Stamina both 3 slotted and both end accolades recovers 3.85 EPS.

Outside of getting chain sapped by Mu I've yet to run into any real problems.


 

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
I finally messed around with my Fire/Regen build (after what I spec'ed it into for i13) and current build hits >4.00 EPS recovery with only QR.

To put that in perspective, a Regen with QR and Stamina both 3 slotted and both end accolades recovers 3.85 EPS.

Outside of getting chain sapped by Mu I've yet to run into any real problems.
You are still vulnerable to elec/ attacks. It does not have to be an elec/thermal. I have seen Elec/Rad corrs beat down /regens scrappers in duels mainly due to the end drain.

To the OP, how much regen do you have in your current build, and what are your global rech times, and how much HP do you plan on your build?


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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
You are still vulnerable to elec/ attacks. It does not have to be an elec/thermal. I have seen Elec/Rad corrs beat down /regens scrappers in duels mainly due to the end drain.


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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
rofl.
Check out -kaleidoscope (freedom). I have seen him/her beat down regen scrappers; the end drain is bad enough without /therm debuffs.


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Check out people with a brain, they tend to not die on regins. This applies on any server.


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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
Check out people with a brain, they tend to not die on regins. This applies on any server.
Playing to win or playing not-to-die and draw? Got a /regen scrapper, Conflict, for duel? Will be happy to see that match vs -kaleidoscope.


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Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.

 

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I like to waste my time in game dueling on my regins. really.


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Elec blast can eventually sap anything (Regen or otherwise) if they are dumb enough to keep getting blasted with it for an extended period of time while spamming attacks and don't bring blues. Most builds that leverage the end drain are elec/therms or elec/kins though, which no amount of slotting on a regen is going to overcome that.

The nice part about end sappers? Usually their damage is pretty low so the way they beat you is when you are dumb enough to stand there and try to take it. (Which to be fair is the mentality of a lot of Regens)

Play smart, play evasive and you'll do just fine.


 

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty View Post
Elec blast can eventually sap anything (Regen or otherwise) if they are dumb enough to keep getting blasted with it for an extended period of time while spamming attacks and don't bring blues. Most builds that leverage the end drain are elec/therms or elec/kins though, which no amount of slotting on a regen is going to overcome that.

The nice part about end sappers? Usually their damage is pretty low so the way they beat you is when you are dumb enough to stand there and try to take it. (Which to be fair is the mentality of a lot of Regens)

Play smart, play evasive and you'll do just fine.
But still playing to win or playing not-to-die and draw?


Repeat Offenders forever !

Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.

 

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Regens with 3 +end procs(not counting panacea) do not get sapped.


 

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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
But still playing to win or playing not-to-die and draw?



Against an elec blast toon with no other sapping to it you easily get 2 zerg rush attempts on them. Also playing to win is one thing, playing like an idiot and letting someone get an easy victory. Even against true sappers you get a minimum of one attempt at a kill.


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I would take Stamina if I were you, getting pimp slapped by electric/thermals is not fun.


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Originally Posted by Santorican View Post
I would take Stamina if I were you, getting pimp slapped by electric/thermals is not fun.
Don't take stamina just for thermals. Stamina won't save you from getting zapped by elec/thermal. If the OP had reached about 4.0 recovery w/out stamina, there is no need to take stamina at all.


Repeat Offenders forever !

Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.

 

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Mids says recovery is currently 3.24/sec. This is with Numi, Miracle and Perf Shift procs.

This is a build yet to be respecced into so is open to tweaking and/or mocking.

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This is the build I run atm with my Fire/Regen, a bit more pricey with some of the PvP IO's but it works pretty well. At some point I'll sub in the 3% Res all shield wall and an extra glad strike proc into GFS for the 33% chance instead of 20%.

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Potential to never die is potential to never die. No matter how you decide to play a regen: not dying is an option. You basically have to chose to die in a 1v1 on a regen. Just like a therm would have to chose to die in a 1v1 vs a regen, since with the self heal, the thern never should even come close to dying. Playing for draws is irrelevant. If you can't kill something that isn't intentionally letting itself die then you just can't kill it. Plain and simple.

As for the build: I'd take stam. Two performance shifter procs is nice. Hurdle is very under-rated as well.