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Originally Posted by fistsnatch
Dear NCSoft and Paragon Studios,
As I sit here waiting for the gates to open to the world that is Issue 17, I was thinking to myself that this could possibly be the worst issue launch I have ever seen. This isn't my first rodeo as I17 marks the fifth time that I have been a part of this grand game we love to play that they have launched a new issue. But I wonder why I17's launch has been a community relations debacle. Somebody has some explaining to do about several things: 1. Why so low-key? You go on the website and the first thing you see is basically an ad for dual pistols. You have to click over to see the first sign on I17 and it's an old ad that still says the generic "coming soon." Ummm, is everyone so busy that they couldn't update this when the launch date was announced last week? Dual pistols has been out for some time now and wouldn't an ad for, say, demon summoning, be more appropriate since it's also available with I17? 2. The 11:53 p.m. posting of server status. I don't know about you, but I am generally not trolling the announcement section of the forums at midnight. I could have last night while enjoying some down time at work, but instead I was trying to determine Ghost of Light's theme song (see other post) and when I could lead a badge exploration tour. If I was in a place where I could be playing CoX I would have been doing that. Ocho is a mediocre community liason at best and knowing that the servers were going to be down for a considerable time on I17 launch day, should have put the word out in a more timely and visible location, i.e. the front page and not four clicks into the forums. 3. Server status unknown. I hate when the feed posts this because you know that the devs are running shakedowns and we the people are on the outside. Lose the unknown and replace it with down. I hate being teased and FYI Paragon folks, if you want to present yourself in a professional, we're educated kind of way, take a second to read the notice you put up to say you are testing the system. Why? Because "to verify todays new publish" is grammatically incorrect. Todays should be "today's" because it is a possessive noun. Am I being picky? Yes. I expect people to read over their stuff or at least use a grammar check before unleashing an annoying message. And related to the server status page, why does it still have notes relating to April 7 up there? That was three weeks ago! Keep up-to-date news up there because a lot of people are looking at that page today and wondering the same thing I am. 4. I go back to No. 1 about the low-key take on I17. I know a lot of people have been running around on test server the past weeks playing with the new toys. Yet why hasn't anyone at Paragon posted up a video of say, the functional tails? Or better yet, ultra mode? They just recently got around to posting up video of demon summoning (got a name picked out for that already) but that's more of a ploy to generate more presales of Going Rogue than interest in I17. Who is to blame for this? I place it firmly on whoever is supposed to be marketing this game. And it makes me question if ANYONE is actually marketing CoX anymore. Does anyone remember the last attempt at CoX (not Going Rogue) marketing? Let me refresh your memory: It was pre AE. Yes, pre AE. And yet long-term players lament the lack of a population on the 8 servers that are not Virtue or Freedom. Come on NCSoft! Use some of that stack of cash to generate some more interest in this game. People love super heroes and CoX has no peers in the MMO game (yeah, I know Champions is out there but c'mon, it's a CoX knockoff) and after 6 years some have forgotten it's out there. With games from DC (coming soon) and Marvel (coming much, much later) on the horizon, now is the best chance to show off and bring folks into the grand worlds that are Paragon City and the Rogue Isles. 5. Because a good list has 5 items, I would like to close by saying that CoX is a great game. I even bought a computer to play it on after my old one was nerfed by the video card changes that came with I13. I love the ability to RP, build bases, build relationships, kick serious butt, play dress up, craft, dance nearly naked in Pocket D, leap over single buildings in a single bound, and blow off some steam after a long day at the office by going into a virtual office building and punch everyone in there in their face. I know I17 will make those experiences even much better and that is why for the past 150 minutes I have sat here waiting, waiting for the chance to celebrate not only I17, but six years of CoX. Here's to many more! Your friend, A Proud CoX Player |
Dear Fistsnatch,
Mobs still get knocked into cave walls and become un-attackable, thus making any kill all mission where this occurs unbeatable. Slotting some IO Enhancements into powers that don't generate threat make them suddenly draw aggro like a Tanker's taunt. Marketing, or the lack thereof, is not as important as things like a 6 year old basic collision detection problem and much newer threat generation errors.
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Originally Posted by fistsnatch
Dear NCSoft and Paragon Studios,
1. Why so low-key? You go on the website and the first thing you see is basically an ad for dual pistols. You have to click over to see the first sign on I17 and it's an old ad that still says the generic "coming soon." Ummm, is everyone so busy that they couldn't update this when the launch date was announced last week? Dual pistols has been out for some time now and wouldn't an ad for, say, demon summoning, be more appropriate since it's also available with I17? |
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3. Server status unknown. I hate when the feed posts this because you know that the devs are running shakedowns and we the people are on the outside. Lose the unknown and replace it with down. I hate being teased and FYI Paragon folks, if you want to present yourself in a professional, we're educated kind of way, take a second to read the notice you put up to say you are testing the system. Why? Because "to verify todays new publish" is grammatically incorrect. Todays should be "today's" because it is a possessive noun. Am I being picky? Yes. I expect people to read over their stuff or at least use a grammar check before unleashing an annoying message. And related to the server status page, why does it still have notes relating to April 7 up there? That was three weeks ago! Keep up-to-date news up there because a lot of people are looking at that page today and wondering the same thing I am. |
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4. I go back to No. 1 about the low-key take on I17. I know a lot of people have been running around on test server the past weeks playing with the new toys. Yet why hasn't anyone at Paragon posted up a video of say, the functional tails? Or better yet, ultra mode? They just recently got around to posting up video of demon summoning (got a name picked out for that already) but that's more of a ploy to generate more presales of Going Rogue than interest in I17. Who is to blame for this? I place it firmly on whoever is supposed to be marketing this game. And it makes me question if ANYONE is actually marketing CoX anymore. Does anyone remember the last attempt at CoX (not Going Rogue) marketing? Let me refresh your memory: It was pre AE. Yes, pre AE. And yet long-term players lament the lack of a population on the 8 servers that are not Virtue or Freedom. Come on NCSoft! Use some of that stack of cash to generate some more interest in this game. People love super heroes and CoX has no peers in the MMO game (yeah, I know Champions is out there but c'mon, it's a CoX knockoff) and after 6 years some have forgotten it's out there. With games from DC (coming soon) and Marvel (coming much, much later) on the horizon, now is the best chance to show off and bring folks into the grand worlds that are Paragon City and the Rogue Isles. |
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5. Because a good list has 5 items, I would like to close by saying that CoX is a great game. I even bought a computer to play it on after my old one was nerfed by the video card changes that came with I13. I love the ability to RP, build bases, build relationships, kick serious butt, play dress up, craft, dance nearly naked in Pocket D, leap over single buildings in a single bound, and blow off some steam after a long day at the office by going into a virtual office building and punch everyone in there in their face. I know I17 will make those experiences even much better and that is why for the past 150 minutes I have sat here waiting, waiting for the chance to celebrate not only I17, but six years of CoX. Here's to many more! Your friend, A Proud CoX Player |
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@Lasher
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ummm, i defense of the Devs, I shall make a few points on your points:
1) the Devs have done interviews, for I17, they were at Pax East where they announced stuff for I17 and Going Rogue.
2) the Dev's hands as far as promotion are actually tied unless Marketing gives them an ok
3) There have been screen shots of Ultra Mode going all the way back to HeroCon.
4) There have been abunch of write-ups about upcoming items in the CoH Universe on game sites over the last few months. Yes most of it is geared toward Going Rogue, which is a pay expansion and goign to be bigger than I17 is.
5) Well, I hope to see you in game and enjoy all the new goodies with you.
*Note, I am not affiliated with NCSoft/Paragon Studios in any way shape or form, I jsut have a lot of respect for the people trying to bring us the best MMO out there
Defcon 0 - (D4 lvl 50),DJ Shecky Cape Radio
@Shecky
Twitter: @DJ_Shecky, @siliconshecky, @thecaperadio
When you air your dirty laundry out on a clothesline above the street, everyone is allowed to snicker at the skid marks in your underoos. - Lemur_Lad
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*Note, I am not affiliated with NCSoft/Paragon Studios in any way shape or form, I jsut have a lot of respect for the people trying to bring us the best MMO out there |
@Lasher
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I heard DJ_Shecky is really Statesman! Pass it around. /runs!
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Shhh, you weren't supposed to tell everyone...
Er. I deny any statement that I am Statesman. Everyone knows he is more annoying than me.
Defcon 0 - (D4 lvl 50),DJ Shecky Cape Radio
@Shecky
Twitter: @DJ_Shecky, @siliconshecky, @thecaperadio
When you air your dirty laundry out on a clothesline above the street, everyone is allowed to snicker at the skid marks in your underoos. - Lemur_Lad
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Webmaster Grave, Virtueverse!
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In almost 100% of these situations, I've decided not to respond at all, since any post stating that I don't care is immediately invalidated by the fact that, obviously, I cared enough to respond at all.
Furthermore, if I truly cared enough about the players lack of care-causing, I'd more than likely include some tips on how to make a post more interesting/attractive. Perhaps a quick reminder to break a big block of text into paragraphs or a quick how-to on using the list function.
To summarise; that was a bit of a fail-post, Black_Marrow.
Though I do applaud the honesty.
Re: Fistsnatch
I don't quite get what you're getting at when you're talking about a shakedown in point 3, but I definitely understand what you're getting at with point 4. Their official marketing efforts haven't always had the greatest result in my opinion.
Though this may be partly due to the fact that I already play the game, so I'm not really the intended audience.
Just for your information as well, you might like to try breaking your post up into paragraphs, leave a gap between each point. Make it a little easier on the eye.
The thread title was good however. It gave me a clear idea of what to expect.
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Dear NCSoft and Paragon Studios,
As I sit here waiting for the gates to open to the world that is Issue 17, I was thinking to myself that this could possibly be the worst issue launch I have ever seen.
This isn't my first rodeo as I17 marks the fifth time that I have been a part of this grand game we love to play that they have launched a new issue. But I wonder why I17's launch has been a community relations debacle. Somebody has some explaining to do about several things:
1. Why so low-key? You go on the website and the first thing you see is basically an ad for dual pistols. You have to click over to see the first sign on I17 and it's an old ad that still says the generic "coming soon." Ummm, is everyone so busy that they couldn't update this when the launch date was announced last week? Dual pistols has been out for some time now and wouldn't an ad for, say, demon summoning, be more appropriate since it's also available with I17?
2. The 11:53 p.m. posting of server status. I don't know about you, but I am generally not trolling the announcement section of the forums at midnight. I could have last night while enjoying some down time at work, but instead I was trying to determine Ghost of Light's theme song (see other post) and when I could lead a badge exploration tour. If I was in a place where I could be playing CoX I would have been doing that. Ocho is a mediocre community liason at best and knowing that the servers were going to be down for a considerable time on I17 launch day, should have put the word out in a more timely and visible location, i.e. the front page and not four clicks into the forums.
3. Server status unknown. I hate when the feed posts this because you know that the devs are running shakedowns and we the people are on the outside. Lose the unknown and replace it with down. I hate being teased and FYI Paragon folks, if you want to present yourself in a professional, we're educated kind of way, take a second to read the notice you put up to say you are testing the system. Why? Because "to verify todays new publish" is grammatically incorrect. Todays should be "today's" because it is a possessive noun. Am I being picky? Yes. I expect people to read over their stuff or at least use a grammar check before unleashing an annoying message.
And related to the server status page, why does it still have notes relating to April 7 up there? That was three weeks ago! Keep up-to-date news up there because a lot of people are looking at that page today and wondering the same thing I am.
4. I go back to No. 1 about the low-key take on I17. I know a lot of people have been running around on test server the past weeks playing with the new toys. Yet why hasn't anyone at Paragon posted up a video of say, the functional tails? Or better yet, ultra mode? They just recently got around to posting up video of demon summoning (got a name picked out for that already) but that's more of a ploy to generate more presales of Going Rogue than interest in I17.
Who is to blame for this? I place it firmly on whoever is supposed to be marketing this game. And it makes me question if ANYONE is actually marketing CoX anymore. Does anyone remember the last attempt at CoX (not Going Rogue) marketing? Let me refresh your memory: It was pre AE. Yes, pre AE. And yet long-term players lament the lack of a population on the 8 servers that are not Virtue or Freedom. Come on NCSoft! Use some of that stack of cash to generate some more interest in this game. People love super heroes and CoX has no peers in the MMO game (yeah, I know Champions is out there but c'mon, it's a CoX knockoff) and after 6 years some have forgotten it's out there. With games from DC (coming soon) and Marvel (coming much, much later) on the horizon, now is the best chance to show off and bring folks into the grand worlds that are Paragon City and the Rogue Isles.
5. Because a good list has 5 items, I would like to close by saying that CoX is a great game. I even bought a computer to play it on after my old one was nerfed by the video card changes that came with I13. I love the ability to RP, build bases, build relationships, kick serious butt, play dress up, craft, dance nearly naked in Pocket D, leap over single buildings in a single bound, and blow off some steam after a long day at the office by going into a virtual office building and punch everyone in there in their face. I know I17 will make those experiences even much better and that is why for the past 150 minutes I have sat here waiting, waiting for the chance to celebrate not only I17, but six years of CoX. Here's to many more!
Your friend,
A Proud CoX Player
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