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It gives you an unenhanceable 5% defense to all (Tank value) plus provides some defense (3% I believe) when you have teammates within 8 feet. Adding defense enhancements increases the defense you get for your teammates, but not the original 5%.|
Originally Posted by TheSwamper
From the description of this power, it would seem it does nothing if you are solo. Do I have this correct? Do NPC allies in missions count?
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So you'd get the 5% when you are solo. I'm not sure about NPC allies in missions; the City of Data descriptions says "teammates".
EDIT for lack of clarity.
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Originally Posted by Finduilas
It gives you an unenhanceable 5% defense to all (Tank value) plus provides some defense (3% I believe) when you have teammates within 8 feet. Adding defense enhancements increases the defense you get for your teammates, but not the original 5%.
So you'd get the 5% when you are solo. I'm not sure about NPC allies in missions; the City of Data descriptions says "teammates". EDIT for lack of clarity. |
The amount is 3.5% for scrappers and brutes. It's unenhanceable, but as anyone knows, 3.5% is very valuable when you're sitting at 42% defense.
It also makes a wonderful place to slot a LotG +Recharge or Kismet +Acc IO, since slotting the power up is kind of pointless unless you plan on teaming with other shield users.
NPC allies don't count. I've tested it.
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As I understand it, the base 3.5-5% defense is unenhanceable; the additional for allies is enhanceable(not 100% certain as the numbers do show in detailed info).
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
The amount is 3.5% for scrappers and brutes. It's unenhanceable, but as anyone knows, 3.5% is very valuable when you're sitting at 42% defense.
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That is correct, as Finduilas said.
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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
As I understand it, the base 3.5-5% defense is unenhanceable; the additional for allies is enhanceable(not 100% certain as the numbers do show in detailed info).
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And just so there is no confusion, the enhanceable part works when ANY teammates are in range, not just other shield users. Of course, it will mostly be melee types that are within 8' of you, but whoever they are they count.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
It also makes a wonderful place to slot a LotG +Recharge or Kismet +Acc IO, since slotting the power up is kind of pointless unless you plan on teaming with other shield users.
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Originally Posted by Eek a Mouse
And just so there is no confusion, the enhanceable part works when ANY teammates are in range, not just other shield users. Of course, it will mostly be melee types that are within 8' of you, but whoever they are they count.
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Of course it works for anyone. I didn't mean to imply that it didn't. |
Originally Posted by Eek a Mouse
And just so there is no confusion, the enhanceable part works when ANY teammates are in range, not just other shield users. Of course, it will mostly be melee types that are within 8' of you, but whoever they are they count.
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It just works better with other shield users who also have Phalanx Fighting and Grant Cover.
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Well yeah, but then EVERYTHING works better with shields |
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Of course it works for anyone. I didn't mean to imply that it didn't.
It just works better with other shield users who also have Phalanx Fighting and Grant Cover. |
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Except Phalanx Fighting is just for you. Grant Cover, on the other hand, will protect others.
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Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Support Scrapper... Stay back by the Blasters to give them Phalanx Fighting...
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Right. But since you're a Scrapper, all you care about it you, so you stay by them to increase PF.
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From the description of this power, it would seem it does nothing if you are solo. Do I have this correct? Do NPC allies in missions count?