theres no way to create doppelgangers from the players side, they are automatically generated in the new mish arcs and parts of the new posi tf's but they will have the same costume as the player who enters the mish and similar powersets (not exact powers)
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Yes it does reminds me of the Nemesis system in Champions Online.
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Am I reading this right? Snipped from here; If I'm understanding that right, you'll be able to create "Doppleganger" NPCs that change powers based on who is fighting them? If so, that's really cool! |
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Wow! That's really cool!
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
theres no way to create doppelgangers from the players side, they are automatically generated in the new mish arcs and parts of the new posi tf's but they will have the same costume as the player who enters the mish and similar powersets (not exact powers)
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"Twisted Reflections", L25-29 in Ouroboros
"Looking Through The Glass", L25-29 in Ouroboros
The 2nd arc is the better of the two IMO, with a really nice cutscene at the end.
Also both have a new feature where the contact talks to you during the missions. It's kinda cool.
Edit: Got some cut scene screenshots on the FF site:
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http://www.fusionforce.us/newcohimages/10480.jpg
http://www.fusionforce.us/newcohimages/10481.jpg
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There are two new villain-side arcs that feature this too. They are awesome!
This is for I17?
Wow!
"every defender needs to fight. I don't care if you have to use BRAWL!"
Sweet!!!!! Can't wait for it to go live...I, unfortunately still can not get Test server to d/l to my new rig. 
"every defender needs to fight. I don't care if you have to use BRAWL!"
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SO instead of lvl 10-15 foes that debuff we get lvl 10-15 foes that mirror us so new Posi still is full of ugh.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
and parts of the new posi tf's
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Hooray!
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Do you realize new Positron is completely different from legacy Positron?
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Originally Posted by Baba_Kanoosh
SO instead of lvl 10-15 foes that debuff we get lvl 10-15 foes that mirror us so new Posi still is full of ugh.
Hooray! |
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Originally Posted by Catharctic
Do you realize new Positron is completely different from legacy Positron?
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I actually hope it comes out soon cuz I am quite bored.
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I'm having fun documenting the new contact pages. Holy dialogue trees! It took me about 6 or 7 hours to document just Field Agent Keith Nance.
On a side note, the ambient sounds they've added are pretty good. I was getting really angry with someone here in my neighborhood who kept honking their horn off and on for about five hours yesterday. It wasn't until I'd already gotten up and looked out the window for the culprit a couple of times and was about ready to go outside the hunt them down that I put two and two together. I finally realized I was only hearing the horn when I was standing next to Nance in Talos - and next to the street with the cars that now honk as they drive by you...
It's sort of interesting to fight against yourself in a mission, too.
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Taking on 8 Karl Rove Men was one of the hardest things I've had to do in-game. To make things worse, /traps gets smoke grenade and targetting drone when you fight them.
This sounds like fun. I keep trying to figure out the opposite of my main toons....and unlike some people I never really built opposites of my heros in red side. I can't wait to check this out.
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I did that when AE was released. Pretty simple to make a "mirror you" in there.|
Originally Posted by B_Samson
It's sort of interesting to fight against yourself in a mission, too.
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Dopplegangers are neat and all, but not something I'd deem as "new and exciting".
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its not just the doppelgangers that make the new arcs awesome, the mishs they have are really cool, plus you get to see some enemies that havent been in the game yet (*cough* ajax and protean *cough*) and with each arc you get multiple choices and stuff (should i save the clone or should i not?, should i help the clone?, ect)
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
I did that when AE was released. Pretty simple to make a "mirror you" in there.
Dopplegangers are neat and all, but not something I'd deem as "new and exciting". |
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This has potential. It'll be nice to see content that isn't "defeat all".
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
...and with each arc you get multiple choices and stuff (should i save the clone or should i not?, should i help the clone?, ect)
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They are probably separate systems, but they tie together nicely (Dopplegangers & Branching).
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
This has potential. It'll be nice to see content that isn't "defeat all".
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Done well, branching content is the way to go in the future for MMOs. If you have a different experience each time you play through in terms of story and your choices having an impact on your future lends itself to the long term over repeatable raiding content.
I'm kind of surprised they haven't tried this out with AE yet. It would be relatively straightforward to create branching arcs in there.
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You're right. They can only go 1 direction with content.
Wait . . .
(I hope someone sees what I did there.)
Personally I was a little let down to see this is only within a hand full of arcs and not some more wide reaching addition to the game.
Hopefully we will see it added to more content later.
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You didn't really give us a choice by pointing it out, did you?
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Originally Posted by Catharctic
You're right. They can only go 1 direction with content.
Wait . . . (I hope someone sees what I did there.) |
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Branching was added to the game in Issue 12. If you do the Origins of Power arc, the contact whose origin matches your own has a different dialog for you. However, it hasn't been leveraged until now. I'm guessing that the coding that allowed it to happen was incorporated into the content-writer's version of their Mission Architect so that Dr. Aeon can go hog-wild incorporating branching dialing and branching events into the new arcs he wrote without having to get the programmers to code it for him.|
Originally Posted by Substrate
Personally I was a little let down to see this is only within a hand full of arcs and not some more wide reaching addition to the game.
Hopefully we will see it added to more content later. |
That's right, branching *events*. In one of the new arcs, you make certain decisions which cause certain signature NPCs to show up to fight you or not depending on what you chose.
I'm sure that this new tech will eventually make its way to the player's MA.
On a separate note: All four new contacts and the refurbished Posi TFs include dopplegangers -- clones, extra-dimensional, shapeshifters, magical constructs, etc.... I'm sure being able to put one into a MA arc will become available some day.
WRT: Kill-alls: Not one of the missions in either of Posi's new TFs is a kill-all. (At least, in Closed Beta it wasn't... things can change.)
For more info, check out link in sig below re: I17.
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Branching is not what I was talking about. I referring to Dopplegangers and there use.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Branching was added to the game in Issue 12.
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I wanted to make sure Jade didn't think I was tagging him.
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Originally Posted by Karl_Rove_Man
You didn't really give us a choice by pointing it out, did you?
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Founding Member and Leader : Shadow-Force
Co-Leader: Council of Heroes
"Whatever evils come this way... we will be there to stop them."