All Kheld MoSTF

You read that right. My account is going to expire in a couple of days, so I want to get this out there for people to see. This is for some point in the future, at a time we have access to the test server again so we can get khelds from all over that match our needs. The team I would like would consist of well-slotted and skilled players. If we failed at the Master of part, it would still be an all Kheld STF

My team of choice would be one Ws other than myself, with well slotted nova, hopefully perma-Eclipse, Gravimetric Snare, Grant Invisibility and Maneuvers. (Not completely opposed to an all-human, but I would feel better with a tri-form).
Five Pb's with well slotted Novas, all attacks with an Achilles' Heel proc.
One Pb with the following powers well slotted: Glowing Touch; Maneuvers; Grant Invisibility.

The other Ws' duty would be the AoE heavy hitter against minions throughout to speed things up, Gravimetric Snare spammer and Maneuvers/Grant Invis buffer for AV fights.
The five Pbs' role should be pretty obvious, hammer the AV's and keep the -res/-def going.
The last Pb would be basically a buffbot and healer (Sorry).

My Ws would play tank in Dwarf. The altbuild I have would be softcapped to all positions with those defense buffs added from the one Pb and Ws, with ~62% resist to all except psi (12%); after the BotZ nerf, I would have to add a small defense insp for the ranged and AoE defense, not a big deal. I'm confident it can manage all the AV's, given some correct insp layout for GW and Recluse and the glowing touch heals coming from the pb buffer.

Why not a Pb with Lightform for tank? The crash, plain and simple, is too dangerous, plus it's not perma. If someone has a White Dwarf build with similar res/def, that might be better because the heal can't miss, but it's also up less frequently.

For the Recluse fight's banes, the other Ws mops them up easily with eclipse, mire and nova (my job on the first MoSTF I did). The nova's high damage mod plus inherent tohit bonus plus 5 sets of Achilles' Heel -Res pretty much always on the AV, I seriously think this is doable.

Thoughts? The question of whether this was even possible was brought up a long time ago, and I think this would be a pretty safe bet.

It's a good idea to suggest and then stay ingame for. I wouldn't go about it the way you are personally.

Hm, can't seem to find where I had posted about a year ago on how my all-kheld STF went. We made it to killing 2, I think, of the 4 AV's right before Recluse. By that time, we were running with 5/6 players, since the TF had taken a lot longer than expected, and players were dropping out. We had to quit then because of less players and a late night.

We learned quite a bit along the way. You might not think that PB's with Lightform would do well, but they turned out to be our best tankers for AV's. One PB would start, and right before the crash occurred he would yell out and another would hit Lightform and take their place. That system eventually worked really well once it got going. For whatever reason, the Dwarf's just were not cutting it that well. Eclipse will go off fine at the start of the fight, but by the time you need to use it again, the rest of the spawn is dead, and Eclipse off of the 1 AV left in the spawn isn't going to give you much survivability.

(Doh, just re-read your idea on yourself tanking. Yep, having a ton of defense will definitely make a dwarf WS viable. Nvm, you've got that covered!)

My optimal team reflecting back would be a few WS's, hopefully tri-form, and the rest as human/nova PB's. Having a few WS's as tri-form ensures that there's possibilities for quick tanking when the situation calls for it as well as quick control when needed, and PB's as dual ensures that they can all rotate tanking. Nova is there for good damage - have the PB's each have the Achilles' -res proc in a couple of the Nova powers. At least that was my thinking back then. Didn't realize that you could get quite a bit of defense to layer with dwarf.

I don't see the need to force one or two players to be "buff-bots". We had nice rolling heals/buffs going the whole way through without enforcing it. You see someone get hurt too much, you switch to human quickly to throw out a heal, simple. But then again, if this is MoSTF, you'll have to be much more careful. We had a few problems with over aggroing multiple spawns...whoever is leader is going to have to have a tight leash on players. We khelds like to have chaos at times. :P You'll have to make doubly sure that every single player knows what is going on for every AV fight - kheld teams just not as straight forward and generally understood even by regular kheld players. Even more so with specialized tactics.

I'd be interested in doing this - have a purpled tri-form WS on Justice, but could manage to move over to the test server if needed. He does have perma Eclipse, but also Grant Invis and maybe Maneuvers, if I recall correctly...Grav Snare I don't think so, but might. I never use it, don't recall really needing to that badly during my kheld STF.

Has it been completed by Khelds or not? I get mixed opinions on it plus would of thought everyone would of heard of it.

I'd be game for that if it were held on Infinity since that's where my Kheldians are.

As for a regular STF, I've never heard of an all-kheld attempt before I tried last year. I'm certain that we could have finished if we had all 8 members still present. Recluse might have required a pre-emptive inspiration run (pop three big purples and you're defense capped to Recluse, if I remember right) by several people and maybe temp powers as well, but it could have been done.

I've never heard of a MoSTF attempt. Might require a couple regular runs first just to get familiar with how the team will need to be run, I would think - if we are really going to attempt it.

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Ah, test server isn't available now. What server are you on, Micro?

I could tell you but then I would be giving away something akin to my left leg. I am european. If it's possible to do it live then you can guess where I'd like to see it done. I don't know if it's been done still (although last time I checked it hadn't). Last time I took an interest I simply took names as in europe finding a willing 8 on one server is even harder and possibly some of them have gone now.

Hey! I was on that team! Bubba Flea, tri-form PB. And you may not have had a declared buff bot, but it was me. I had taken the medicine pool so that I could tank, blast, scrap, or defend in a pinch.

I spent most of the TF (and the ITF a few days before it) casting stimulant on everyone and heals where needed, and then blasted, punched, or stomped as appropriate.

I think we should finish a regular all -kheld STF before attempting a MoSTF. My PB is still on Justice so let me know if you set a date to do it there or on Test. Send me a PM or an in-game tell though. I rarely come to the kheldian forum but your title cought my eye. If you post it in here I may miss it.

I was on that team as well... we had only a bit of trouble getting done with all the missions, up to the final four AVs in the last mission. Gave up on that after a while of pounding on them (Scirocco's AoE hold was killer).

I have all the people I need for this now, well who've so far said they'd do it live. I want to do this quite openly as my confidence in an all kheld stf lacks for nothing. I got one PB, who with me and Scirocco have got things going on, we can survive him and keep attacking him till he's dead. With Scirocco sorted that to me seemingly leaves Lord Recluse as a one and only last problem. It's actually more to do with his pets but the way I see it, it's doable if ya commit to it.