opinions on this D^3 Stalker please


GavinRuneblade

 

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Like it says in the title... i just threw together my first Stalker build on mids; too much? just good enough, or 'meh'?


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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Shadow Punch

  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Hide
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (3) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%
  • (3) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
  • (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Smite
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (31) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (31) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 4: Dark Embrace
  • (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (5) Impervium Armor - Resistance
  • (5) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
  • (13) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 6: Assassin's Eclipse
  • (A) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (7) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
  • (11) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
  • (11) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (13) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 8: Build Up
  • (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
  • (9) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (9) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception
Level 10: Shadow Dweller
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%
  • (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
Level 12: Placate
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Murky Cloud
  • (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (15) Impervium Armor - Resistance
  • (15) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
  • (17) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance
Level 16: Obsidian Shield
  • (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (17) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
  • (19) Impervium Armor - Resistance
  • (19) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Siphon Life
  • (A) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (36) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Healing
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
Level 20: Dark Regeneration
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Eradication - Damage
  • (21) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (27) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
Level 22: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  • (23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  • (23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 24: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 26: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
Level 28: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (29) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 30: Stealth
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 35: Kick
  • (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (46) Force Feedback - Damage/Knockback
Level 38: Tough
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
  • (39) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 41: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 44: Dark Blast
  • (A) Entropic Chaos - Chance of Heal Self
  • (45) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage
  • (45) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance
  • (45) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 47: Shadow Meld
  • (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
  • (48) Shield Wall - Defense
  • (48) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
Level 49: Soul Storm
  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Assassination


 

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If this is for PvE, you won't need Stealth or the +Perception IO. Also, don't slot Dark Regen for damage, it's a waste.

If it's for PvP, don't do Dark Armor. It isn't a happy experience.


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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to me, PvP is never a happy experience

this would be a PvE build/mostly soloing


 

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What Rei said. Also, the theft of essence proc in Siphon Life isn't worth it imo, just leave one on Dark Regen and enhance the acc/dmg/rech on Siphon, at least max the damage on it and give it good recharge. You don't need to enhance the heal so much because you have dark regen, which you'll want slotted for acc/end/rech mostly, not damage.

You can slot Midnight Grasp with 5 Crushing Impacts and add a Rech/End in the 6th slot from one of the tohit debuff sets. I'd also get Shadow Maul instead of Shadow Punch, SM is great if you are good with cones, you can easily hit 3 mobs.

And before I try to mess with the build (post the datachunk if you can), I gotta ask, is this a 7 billion build? Because you'll probably spend 5 billion on the gladiator armor and shield walls there.


 

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Here you go...and honestly, i wasn't thinking about the cost (not because i'm rich, mind you), i was just messing with mids, seeing if i could whip up decent stalker


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Well you can't truely knock anything really in PVP. Something always works for someone. Whether it works well, or not is something different.


 

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Well...

- Stamina is underslotted, I'd put 4 perf shifters, especially since you're dark armor and have tough and weave;
- I don't see the need for 6-slotting Crushing Impacts, I'd get Shadow Maul instead of SPunch and 6-slot obliterations for the melee def, in M. Grasp I'd use a recharge/endurance from the Dampened Spirits set in the 6th slot;
- the FF proc in Kick will do almost nothing for you;
- D. Regen needs to be slotted for recharge, accuracy and endred, not damage;
- Build up is WAY underslotted for recharge, 3 rech IOs will be better than what you put there;
- I'd put 2 recharges on Placate;
- The status resistance IO in Murky Cloud is useless;
- Entropic Chaos in Dark Blast is bad, the acc and damage suck in this set - I'd go with 5 decimations if you wanna keep your recharge;
- As I said those PVP IOs will cost a fortune;
- Shadow Meld should be slotted for more recharge;

- And last but not least, I don't see the point of playing a Dark Armor Stalker if you don't get Oppressive Gloom (or Cloak of Fear). OG is good to go with one Accuracy IO, CoF needs 5 or 6 slots to be effective.

Also, keep in mind the BoTZ IOs will be nerfed, the ranged defense they provide will be lowered to 1.25% amd AoE to 1.88% iirc.


 

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Ok messed with your build a little, removed some regen bonuses because I don't think they'd be useful with Siphon Life and Dark Regen.

D. Regen slotting is not exactly optimal but maybe you wanna keep Eradication's bonuses (+ end, HP and ranged def).

It's capped on HP with the accolades and has better defense without using ultra expensive PVP IOs or purples.

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01 dm da: Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 1: Hide -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Run+(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Oblit-%Dam(33)
Level 4: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(5), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 6: Assassin's Eclipse -- T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(7), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(7), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(11), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), T'Death-Dam%(13)
Level 8: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Shadow Dweller -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17), LkGmblr-Def(23)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 14: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), ImpArm-ResDam(31)
Level 16: Obsidian Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(17), S'fstPrt-ResKB(19), HO:Ribo(19)
Level 18: Siphon Life -- Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Nictus-Acc/Heal(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 20: Dark Regeneration -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(21), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(25), Theft-+End%(25), EndRdx-I(27)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23)
Level 24: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 26: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(27), Mrcl-Heal(29)
Level 28: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(43), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(46)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(42)
Level 35: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(36), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 38: Oppressive Gloom -- Acc-I(A)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Dark Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Shadow Meld -- HO:Membr(A), HO:Membr(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Soul Storm -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(50), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination
Level 0: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 5,5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 10,5% Defense(Smashing)
  • 10,5% Defense(Lethal)
  • 3% Defense(Fire)
  • 3% Defense(Cold)
  • 8,63% Defense(Energy)
  • 8,63% Defense(Negative)
  • 8,63% Defense(Psionic)
  • 12,4% Defense(Melee)
  • 5,81% Defense(Ranged)
  • 3% Defense(AoE)
  • 10,8% Max End
  • 32% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 66,3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 171,7 HP (14,3%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -4)
  • Knockup (Mag -4)
  • MezResist(Held) 2,75%
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 12,7%
  • MezResist(Stun) 2,2%
  • 18% (0,3 End/sec) Recovery
  • 30% (1,51 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 12,5% RunSpeed




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That looks like a fun build. Here's a really hard question though: How could you mod it to fit fly for a travel power?


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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Maybe getting Hover at 22 instead of CJ then Fly at 24 or 30, delaying Fitness (with Fly at 24) or Fighting (if you get at 30), and scrapping Soul Storm.

If you want it earlier, you can live without Murky Cloud till later. The Hover at 14 and Fly at 18 / 20, delaying S. Life (I wouldn't) or Dark Regen (getting it at 22, Murky at 24 and delaying Stamina a bit).

Stalker builds are hella tight in the early levels, I'm happy there's Ninja Run now.


 

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Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
Maybe getting Hover at 22 instead of CJ then Fly at 24 or 30, delaying Fitness (with Fly at 24) or Fighting (if you get at 30), and scrapping Soul Storm.

If you want it earlier, you can live without Murky Cloud till later. The Hover at 14 and Fly at 18 / 20, delaying S. Life (I wouldn't) or Dark Regen (getting it at 22, Murky at 24 and delaying Stamina a bit).

Stalker builds are hella tight in the early levels, I'm happy there's Ninja Run now.
Yeah ninja run is handy. I also spend money on jet packs once my first freebie runs out.

Usually I try to get Air Superiority instead of hover specifically to get another attack early on, but looks like the slot is needed for recharge, that's what makes it a bit tricky. Don't want to disorder things too much but could take boxing early then hover and fly late, hmmm. Gotta be a way.

My current dark/dark/dark is really messed up. Trying to think of ways to fix it without making it worse. hehe.


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.

 

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Well Gavin, since you're not likely to exemp below level 13 (I think), you'd still keep Shadow Maul, Smite, Assassin Strike and Siphon Life at 13 since now you stay with the powers 5 levels up if you exemp to lvl 13 (I really advocate Shadow Maul over SPunch, love hitting 3-5 guys with it and it's good even as a ST attack, and recharges quite fast, it's a cone with the damage, end cost and recharge of a ST attack).

Another problem in taking A. Superiority is slotting, the power deserves at least four imo (I have it in my 50 DM/DA scrapper 5-slotted with C. Impact, but when I respec her into a tough/weave build I'll have to switch to Hover).

In the build I made above, if I had 3 more slots I'd put a full set of Gaussians in Build Up to get the defense bonuses. A Dampened Spirits rech/end on Smite would also be nice for a 6th slot (could take the HO out from Obs. Shield depending on how concerned you are with psi res).


 

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Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
Well Gavin, since you're not likely to exemp below level 13 (I think), you'd still keep Shadow Maul, Smite, Assassin Strike and Siphon Life at 13 since now you stay with the powers 5 levels up if you exemp to lvl 13 (I really advocate Shadow Maul over SPunch, love hitting 3-5 guys with it and it's good even as a ST attack, and recharges quite fast, it's a cone with the damage, end cost and recharge of a ST attack).

Another problem in taking A. Superiority is slotting, the power deserves at least four imo (I have it in my 50 DM/DA scrapper 5-slotted with C. Impact, but when I respec her into a tough/weave build I'll have to switch to Hover).

In the build I made above, if I had 3 more slots I'd put a full set of Gaussians in Build Up to get the defense bonuses. A Dampened Spirits rech/end on Smite would also be nice for a 6th slot (could take the HO out from Obs. Shield depending on how concerned you are with psi res).
I don't go below 13 often, but I do run the Oro arc Spy Hunt at level 14 at least 4 or 5 times a week for solo merit farming (16 merits for 15-20 minutes of work seems ok to me). There's a few others that get me down to 9, but I don't run them regularly.

I just threw a 19%/19% Acc/Dam into Air superiority, but I'm looking to upgrade to two of them. Keep the full enhancement level down to level 21. To keep the enhancement any lower level than that the individual bonuses have to be lower than 15% and then you would need extra slots. I looked at the quads and triples, because a level 50 Mako gives you 19.8% Acc/Dam/End/Rech all the way from 50 to 21.

But the endurance difference is less than 1 point, and the recharge is nothing significant either. So I just have the one Acc/Dam. If I went to two slots I'd probably opt for a Mako quad and some cheap triple Acc/Dam/Rech to have 38%/38%/19%/38%. Four and a smidge SOs of enhancement out of only two slots while level 21 is pretty decent I think. =) At level 14 that gets gutted down to 14%/14%/6%/14% but not much I can do about it. Three quads @ triples at 14.8% each would give me 44% down to level 15, but once I drop to 14 I'm still stuck with only 15%. So two slots is the max I'll bother with for now.

With the one dual I am better off than two DOs down to 21 and still better than 1 DO at 14, which is what the enemies I'm fighting are balanced against. So I figure that's decent enough. At high level I don't use it. It is just there for the extra attack while exemped since I only have 1 veteran attack and even with brawl I need more down at 14.

As for Shadow Maul, I truly suck with cones. I think in a year and a half I've gotten two or more with shadow maul, err, MAYBE twice. I can't actually recall it ever happening but I'm assuming it must've happened at least once and I didn't notice. I'll occasionally see that I did line up correctly, but I inevitably miss one and hit the other. I keep it around because it lets me slot PBAoE sets which is nice. I have multistrike in it now, while I finish picking up level 32 oblits. Dang things just won't show up on the market =) As far as I'm concerned, it IS a single target attack with bugged slotting.

Between DA's own protection and the heals I'm not so worried about Psi. I also have Aegis slotted right now just because it dropped while I was leveling.


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