Split the Assault Rifle powerset

Something I greatly dislike about this powerset is that it's called Assault Rifle yet clearly has shotgun and flamethrower powers. It's hard to fit the monster mutant weapon into a theme. Why not split it into 3 different sets? Remove the shotgun and flamethrower skills from the current set and add a few more assault rifle attacks. I can think of a few easy: "Single Shot" to replace Slug, remove the knockback chance and instead add bonus accuracy. "Spray" to replace Buckshot, remove the knockback again but add a little more damage and make the attack mulithit like Burst. "Leg Shot" to replace Beanbag, with a root instead of disorient. "Headshot" to replace Flamethrower, extreme single target damage instead of the AoE. Then maybe borrow the ammo swap function of dual pistols and swap that in for Ignite. Obviously rearranging some of these, and the grenade can stay as that's something many games portray assault rifles as being capable of. The shotgun powers could be used to make a new shotgun set, and the flamethrower powers could be fit into a heavy weapon set (rocket launcher/flamethrower/explosives). Now I'm sure some people are attached to the current AR, so keep it in but rename it to something more fitting, like Mega Gun or whatever. I just think the current version fits more with some sort of mad weapons inventor, slapping different weapon parts together and making a multiuse weapon. When making a simple soldier type character I more often than not try to skip the skills that clearly aren't AR based, but it makes me feel like I'm gimping the character.

I mean we have many different melee weapon sets, but until Dual Pistols this was the only gun set. The current AR set is like if instead of all the sword, axe and mace sets, we had one set that was a mismatch of all those powers.

So you want the developers to spend time generating 3 new, different sets each focusing on a single aspect of the existing set because the existing set doesn't fit within the narrow confines of real assault rifles?

This isn't going to happen because there's a lot more stuff that the developers could be spending development resources on that designing 3 new powersets off of stuff provided by an existing one. You might as well ask for separate Revolvers and Flintlock powersets because Dual Pistols fires rounds too quickly to be either of those naturally (i.e. without resorting to magic).

I like AR/ the way it is. I have scratched my head over what gives it the name, and then I took one to 50. There was plenty of assaulting going on, lol. My AR/Traps corr is amazing and I wouldn't change him for anything.

I don't think he had to.

Ok, we'll do this your way.

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Originally Posted by Zaion Something I greatly dislike about this powerset is that it's called Assault Rifle yet clearly has shotgun and flamethrower powers. It's hard to fit the monster mutant weapon into a theme.

Not really. Call it an experimental weapon, an awarded/stolen Longbow weapon, a gun that uses different ammo types to create flamethrower effects/explosive shells, etc. All it takes is a little creativity.

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Why not split it into 3 different sets? Remove the shotgun and flamethrower skills from the current set and add a few more assault rifle attacks.

Cottage rule. Not going to happen. Also proves that you don't read what you write, becasue this is specifically saying 'edit the AR set'.

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I can think of a few easy: "Single Shot" to replace Slug, remove the knockback chance and instead add bonus accuracy. "Spray" to replace Buckshot, remove the knockback again but add a little more damage and make the attack mulithit like Burst. "Leg Shot" to replace Beanbag, with a root instead of disorient. "Headshot" to replace Flamethrower, extreme single target damage instead of the AoE. Then maybe borrow the ammo swap function of dual pistols and swap that in for Ignite. Obviously rearranging some of these, and the grenade can stay as that's something many games portray assault rifles as being capable of.

All of which will require new animations and, more importantly, balancing. Including Swap Ammo wouldnt happen for the simple fact that its DPs selling point, much like Combos is for DB. Again, Cottage Rule.

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The shotgun powers could be used to make a new shotgun set, and the flamethrower powers could be fit into a heavy weapon set (rocket launcher/flamethrower/explosives).

There is no way to have 9 powers all based on a shotgun without being incredibly boring. There's only so much you can do with a 12 guage. Likewise with a flamethrower. Its all well and good for NPC minions and suchnot, because that is what they are; stacked cannon fodder.

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Now I'm sure some people are attached to the current AR, so keep it in but rename it to something more fitting, like Mega Gun or whatever.

Contradicts what you said earlier in the post about editing the set.

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I just think the current version fits more with some sort of mad weapons inventor, slapping different weapon parts together and making a multiuse weapon. When making a simple soldier type character I more often than not try to skip the skills that clearly aren't AR based, but it makes me feel like I'm gimping the character. I mean we have many different melee weapon sets, but until Dual Pistols this was the only gun set. The current AR set is like if instead of all the sword, axe and mace sets, we had one set that was a mismatch of all those powers.

I do agree in part there. But this is a super hero/vilain game. If the Devs focus exclusively on the gun sets, people will complain that its becoming 'City of Soldiers', much like DP heralded the calls of 'City of Neo' etc etc.

So, attitude aside, I wouldnt mind seeing more weaponsied sets. But I dont know when or even if they might happen. *shrug*

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I want a sniper power set. In general a gun set focused on single targets primarly. Never liked the fact they give you a sniper rifle for weapon customization but nothing really snipe orianted and I would rather not butcher Assualt Rifle so I could have my sniper.

Anyway...

If apparently we must have fancy shamancy animations. You could do it with the way the bullets travel/animate with the shotgun. FlameThrower ish weapon same way.

If anything, the only reason I know there wouldn't be a sniper set is because it would hard to think of that many animiations for point and shoot.

For a bit of extra honesty, while I will admit that Dual Pistols is cool... those animations actualy put me off the set. I'll watch others play it but a lot of that movement is just annoying/needless to me.

The grenade launcher attachment for most assault rifles in the real world can provide most, if not all, of the abilities which assault rifle features.

There's a grenade round (M30 Grenade), obviously, however the grenade attachment can also take enlarged shotgun rounds (Buckshot/Beanbag) and there is such a thing as Dragon's Breath rounds (Flamethrower and ignite) and any assault rifle is usually capable of single shot (sniper rifle/slug), semi-auto (burst) and full auto (full auto obviously).

Ultimately, bottom line, we have enough gun powersets as it is.

We have DP and AR. I really don't think the devs would go about making yet another "pew pew pew brakkabrakkabrakka" set as it's seeming to be done over and over again now. The only thing that made /DP unique was swap ammo (which I love). I'd like to see the plasma rifle powerset, have suggested it before, but I don't think it will happen for that very reason, sadly...let alone dissecting a powerset to make a new similar one.

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