Getting a New PC. Would like input...


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Looking at getting a CyberPower Gamer Ultra A102. Do some of you more technical gurus think this machine is up to snuff? Of course, it has to be able run City of Heroes (and hopefully Ultra Mode). Below are the specs... thanks in Advance

Whether you're gaming, surfing the web, editing photos or other digital media, the CyberPower Gamer Ultra A102 lets you accomplish more with a quad core CPU that makes multitasking fast and efficient. Enjoy cool and quiet computing with AMD and Windows 7 Home Premium for improved power management and energy savings.
Key Features & Benefits
AMD Athlon II X4 630 Quad-Core AMD3 processor
2.6 GHz
4 GB DDR2 system memory
Enough memory to handle today's most memory-hungry applications
500 GB 7200 RPM SATA II hard drive
Store your music, videos, photos and documents with plenty of space to spare
22x DVD+R/+RW Drive
Play and create CDs and DVDs with this DVD/CD burner drive.
ATI Radeon 4350 512MB PCI Express video card

Additional Features
6 x USB 2.0 ports, 1 x Audio port, 1 x RJ-45 port, 2 x PS2 port, 1 x VGA port, 1 x COM
USB keyboard and mouse
AC power supply included

Software
Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


 

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Video card is seriously under powered. Seriously.

CPU and memory are fine.

I would also hazard a guess that the included power supply is also seriously under powered, hence the low end video card.


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You'd be better off piecing a new rig together with mid to higher end components...can get the rig up and running for much cheaper and with room to grow.


 

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You'd be better off piecing a new rig together with mid to higher end components...can get the rig up and running for much cheaper and with room to grow.
Not really. Yes, you can go expensive on the important stuff like motherboard, CPU and PSU, and cheaper on the rest, planning to upgrade later (which is cheaper initially but more expensive in the long-run), but you won't get a decent build for cheaper than what this system is (hopefully) being sold for.


 

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The Graphic card will be a bottleneck, i would try to up it. And if you have the money, get 4GB more RAM since you are running a 64bit system you would like to get the most out of the system and windows steals 1-2GB ram when running different stuff leaving 2-3GB for games and other processes. Besides if you are going up in the world with a new computer getting 8GB of ram is a must

And yes a better GFX card


 

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If I was looking around for a laptop specifically (I travel a lot), would an NVIDIA GT200 series (maybe 260x) be ok, paired with 4 or 6gb of ram and Intel dualcore?


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Thanks for your replies - kind of insight I was looking for before getting something that won't work

I'm a little leary of piecing together a rig. The one I've been using was pieced together - and I've simply had frequent problems with it (hard drive crashing, overheating...). If I were to have one pieced together, I'd want someone that was a true professional doing it, and I don't see much of a bargain there.

The model in my OP is going for $450-500. I'll look for options on increasing the specs mentioned, along with other machines as well. If I find something promising, hope I can post here for you guys input again. Thanks again


 

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If I was looking around for a laptop specifically (I travel a lot), would an NVIDIA GT200 series (maybe 260x) be ok, paired with 4 or 6gb of ram and Intel dualcore?
Well it should run CoH fine if that's the question. As for UM, I'd tend to doubt it based on what is publicly known. Mobile chips just aren't as good as their desktop brethren. Even if they do share model numbers. Depending on what the final UM specs shake out to, you *might* get minimum UM but I really couldn't say with certainty. A 280M or 285M is the best Nvidia you can get right now I think and I'd expect they could get minimum to maybe low UM performance. But until the NDA lifts that's the best anyone can tell you.


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Thanks for your replies - kind of insight I was looking for before getting something that won't work

I'm a little leary of piecing together a rig. The one I've been using was pieced together - and I've simply had frequent problems with it (hard drive crashing, overheating...). If I were to have one pieced together, I'd want someone that was a true professional doing it, and I don't see much of a bargain there.

The model in my OP is going for $450-500. I'll look for options on increasing the specs mentioned, along with other machines as well. If I find something promising, hope I can post here for you guys input again. Thanks again
Putting together your own rig isn't that hard if you're careful and pay attention. And there's all sorts of info out there on how to do it. If you do your homework it isn't hard to find a compatible set of parts and do it yourself. But I can understand folks' hesitation to do so. There's a good thread over in the Dev Corner concerning vid cards that are expected to support UM and Father Xmas has some guides in his sig on part selection and affordable rigs that you might peruse. Even if you still have a system built for you, those can give you an idea of what to get in it and make you a more educated shopper. And by all means, ask questions here too!


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I just bought and assembled the Father Xmas $1200 rig and I could not be happier!

If you can:

1. Thread a needle without going to the emergency room.
2. Have ever inserted an Atari 2600/NES cartridge and the game worked.
3. Can follow a recipe without making substitutions even though you know it needs garlic...

You can build your own computer... Honest!

This thread helped me immensely...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=209744


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Originally Posted by Renardine View Post
I just bought and assembled the Father Xmas $1200 rig and I could not be happier!

If you can:

1. Thread a needle without going to the emergency room.
2. Have ever inserted an Atari 2600/NES cartridge and the game worked.
3. Can follow a recipe without making substitutions even though you know it needs garlic...

You can build your own computer... Honest!

This thread helped me immensely...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=209744
Maybe I could do this - thanks


 

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You should keep an eye on http://slickdeals.net/ as there are CPU/motherboard combos, graphics and memory deals all the time. I picked up the same processor in the OP paired with an MSI 785GM-E51 a couple weeks ago for right around $100 because Fry's had a combo deal going on. Sometimes you can find some deals on DDR3. Honestly, I'd go with DDR3 for a new build right now just because there is little to no price difference between 4GB of DDR2 vs. 4GB of DDR3

You can also get a decent graphics card (ATI 57xx series) for right around $150, which is a good enough card for the price.

Take a look around at some of the e-tailers like mWave, Newegg, etc. before going with a package like in the OP.