Question on Mids


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Hey,
So I'm just now getting into mids and as a result I'm also getting into the invention system. My question is, is there a way to see what the recharge of my powers will be with the recharge bonus from IO sets factored in? thanks

Also, this is unrelated but I don't feel like making another topic, how do you guys typically keep a good constant flow of cash coming in? Lately I've been doing ouroboros arcs for the merits and then cashing them in for rare salvage and selling it. This hasn't been too bad. What do you do?

-Ice_Storm


 

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Originally Posted by Ice_Storm View Post
Hey,
So I'm just now getting into mids and as a result I'm also getting into the invention system. My question is, is there a way to see what the recharge of my powers will be with the recharge bonus from IO sets factored in? thanks

Also, this is unrelated but I don't feel like making another topic, how do you guys typically keep a good constant flow of cash coming in? Lately I've been doing ouroboros arcs for the merits and then cashing them in for rare salvage and selling it. This hasn't been too bad. What do you do?

-Ice_Storm
1. Just hover over the power or lock it, and look at the recharge in the info block. It will show the new recharge number in green and the base in parenthesis. This will include slotting/hasten/global rech.

2. Market forum.


 

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1) What Lith said.
2) Mostly, just playing through the game and crafting/selling what drops on the market. I run TFs quite frequently, and the merits are always handy. When I want a larger cash infusion, simple market games (as are detailed extensively in the market forum and many guides) can make stupid amounts of money.

Also, buying rare salvage to sell with reward merits (from arcs/TFs) is, comparatively speaking, one of the worst merit/influence conversion rates available. At the price you could get a random rare salvage piece for, which usually would only sell for 1-2 million, you could get a random Pool C recipe roll. While random recipe rolls have a lot more variety in their return rates, if you make enough of them that your luck averages out, you will get a lot more bang for your buck. Alternatively, if you are drawn to the rare salvage selling for its reliability, you can save up those merits for something like a Luck of the Gambler +Recharge (200 merits), which can sell for over 100 million these days. Compare that merit/inf ratio to what you are getting with salvage conversion; it's almost 10x more profitable to save up for the big recipes. For a better merit/inf conversion rate than salvage but requiring less patience than saving up 200+ merits, consider valuable low-level things like a Steadfast res/def unique, or -KB IOs (although check the market price for these, since they vary pretty widely month to month).

If you want quick returns by selling rare salvage, tickets from AE content offer a vastly more favorable conversion rate than merits. In the mission architect, you're looking at 540 tickets per salvage piece (and you can choose the specific type that's selling for the most at the time) versus 4000+ tickets for a Pool C recipe, instead of basically the same price with merits.


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For #2 playing a level 50 doing just about anything will generate a large cash flow

Then add some market activities to earn inf whilst you are logged out.

As an aside merits for salvage is not a good return, merits for a random recipe is much better. Or if you like the steady return, lots of merits for a single rare recipe.



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AE tickets for rare salvage is a much better return.

You don't have to farm AE, just find some arcs you enjoy playing and they'll build up.

I got a purple drop on my brute this morning before work, first purple he's ever gotten, to the tune of half a billion infamy. So, I guess playing level 50 non-AE stuff is a good way to earn cash too. But not especially reliable.


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1. Just hover over the power or lock it, and look at the recharge in the info block. It will show the new recharge number in green and the base in parenthesis. This will include slotting/hasten/global rech.
Really? this is what I had been doing but the number doesn't seem right. I guess the bonuses are effected by ED too? that's the only thing that makes sense. Dang haha


EDIT: I was hoping to get the recharge of Hail of Bullets down a bit more. Oh well, still this frees up slots from other powers since I won't have to slot a recharge so it's still real useful


 

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Really? this is what I had been doing but the number doesn't seem right. I guess the bonuses are effected by ED too? that's the only thing that makes sense. Dang haha
Nope, set bonuses are not affected by ED (and neither is Luck of the Gambler +rech IO, afaik). Perhaps the rule of 5 is what has you confused? You can only have 5 of each identical set bonus active, so you can only have 5 +5% recharge bonuses active for example. Mids can show if you have any set bonuses affected by this, check the View Active Sets button and look for red set bonuses.

If that's not the case, then the View Totals button will show you the amount of recharge you get from sets+active powers (Hasten, AM etc), while View Active sets will show you the total set bonuses you have. Compare these views and see if anything in there doesn't add up.


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My guess is confusion with how recharge enhancement works.

FinalRech = OriginalRech / (1 + RechBonus)

If you have 100% between enhancement and set bonuses, 1 + RechBonus = 2, so your final recharge half the original. If you have 200% between enhancement and set bonuses, 1 + RechBonus = 3, so your final recharge is one third of the original.

The x-axis is your recharge bonus (multiply by 100 to get the percentage), between all sources (enhancements set bonuses, buffs, etc.). The y-axis the the multiplier to apply to your original recharge time in order to find your final recharge time.

As you can see, it's not a linear progression, and the more buffs you apply, the slower the multiplier decreases (and a decreasing multiplier is good, because it means your recharge is lower).

Also note that this graph goes between -0.75 (-75% recharge) and 4 (+400% recharge), which are the lower and upper bounds that your recharge can be at.


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Originally Posted by Icelock View Post
Nope, set bonuses are not affected by ED (and neither is Luck of the Gambler +rech IO, afaik). Perhaps the rule of 5 is what has you confused? You can only have 5 of each identical set bonus active, so you can only have 5 +5% recharge bonuses active for example. Mids can show if you have any set bonuses affected by this, check the View Active Sets button and look for red set bonuses.

If that's not the case, then the View Totals button will show you the amount of recharge you get from sets+active powers (Hasten, AM etc), while View Active sets will show you the total set bonuses you have. Compare these views and see if anything in there doesn't add up.
I'm pretty sure I'm good on all that from what I can tell. Right now in Hail of Bullets I have 5 obliteration set IOs slotted. in addition to that I have +42% recharge in my totals from set bonuses. However my HOB recharge is shown as 51.4s. Is this right and I'm just getting my numbers in my head mixed up?

I'm fairly certain that the recharge bonus is working ok because it's being applied to my powers that are unslotted and taking away a little over 25% of the recharge time.


EDIT: If I take away all the sets except for Obliteration my Hail of Bullets recharge is shown as 61s


 

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Right now in Hail of Bullets I have 5 obliteration set IOs slotted. in addition to that I have +42% recharge in my totals from set bonuses.
Assuming lv50 Obliteration pieces, that should give you:
120 / (1 + 1.3193) = 120 / 2.3193 = 51.74s recharge.

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However my HOB recharge is shown as 51.4s.
There may be a rounding error somewhere in Mids' (I'm being as exact as I can be, on the spot), or you're not giving your exact set bonus values. Either way, the number you're reporting is better for you than the number I've calculated for you.

Edit: You would need less than 2% more recharge than you claim you have in order to get HoB down to the recharge time Mids' is reporting to you.


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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
Assuming lv50 Obliteration pieces, that should give you:
120 / (1 + 1.3193) = 120 / 2.3193 = 51.74s recharge.

There may be a rounding error somewhere in Mids' (I'm being as exact as I can be, on the spot), or you're not giving your exact set bonus values. Either way, the number you're reporting is better for you than the number I've calculated for you.

Edit: You would need less than 2% more recharge than you claim you have in order to get HoB down to the recharge time Mids' is reporting to you.
Ok cool, guess it's working fine then. Sounds good.