I am NOT an expert. However, I do have a fairly cheap (by today's standards) Katana/Super Reflexes build. Hopefully you have the latest Mids and can import this. The only really expensive items in it are the (optional) Miracle and Numina, as well as the Steadfast Protection. Most of the other stuff is fairly cheap, even though you'll of course have to acquire the recipes and the rare salvage.
At the end you will see 2 data chunks. The second one, if you can load Mids planner, is the same build but with almost all the IOs stripped out. It will show you that you can hit 44.7% to all with just generic IOs, 1 steadfast protection, and the full Gaussian set. Everything else in my original build was strictly optional, just designed to pick up a little recharge, global accuracy, endurance recovery, etc.
Again, I'm not an uber player and my build is timid (esp the second data block), but it would suffice if by budget you REALLY mean budget. I'm sure others would have better builds or suggestions, but I figured I'd chip in anyway.
Lewis
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Street Vixen: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gambler's Cut -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(15), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(40), RedFtn-EndRdx(43)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(3), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(3), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(7), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 4: Focused Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(43)
Level 6: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 8: Divine Avalanche -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 14: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 16: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 18: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(46), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 22: The Lotus Drops -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(23), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(25), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), UndDef-Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 24: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 28: Lucky -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(34)
Level 30: Dodge -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(34)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(33), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(33), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(33), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 35: Evasion -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Ksmt-ToHit+(43)
Level 38: Agile -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(39)
Level 41: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Random AT Generation!
"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
"Oh don't worry. I always leave things to the last moment." -- The Doctor
"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan
Thanks for giving it a look. Your builds gave me some good ideas.
@Exabecquerel | 50s:
1 corr (fire/kin), 1 widow (tuna), 3 MM (bots/ff, demons/dark, demons/traps), 2 brutes (ss/wp, kin/sr)
1 def (kin/dp), 2 trollers (fire/rad, earth/storm), 2 scrappers (spines/dark, kat/sr)
Well I'm personally a recharge wh*re, so here's something that's much, much costlier for you to shoot for once you're done with the cheaper build:
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That keeps the softcap and adds perma hasten. It sacrifices a travel power, but this is fairly irrelevant on an /SR scrapper with the advent of Martial Arts Booster since Quickness+Swift+Sprint+Ninja Run works out very, very fast anyway and this build has stealth built into it.
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Holy crap. |
Originally Posted by Atonement_EU
That keeps the softcap and adds perma hasten. It sacrifices a travel power, but this is fairly irrelevant on an /SR scrapper with the advent of Martial Arts Booster since Quickness+Swift+Sprint+Ninja Run works out very, very fast anyway and this build has stealth built into it.
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That would be a long-term goal. But I'll save it anyway because who knows how much I'll get the bug for involved builds once I've got him to 50 and have the soft cap. Maybe it'll be the motivation to get me into steady marketeering instead of occasional one-offs like I've been doing for the past six months or so.
@Exabecquerel | 50s:
1 corr (fire/kin), 1 widow (tuna), 3 MM (bots/ff, demons/dark, demons/traps), 2 brutes (ss/wp, kin/sr)
1 def (kin/dp), 2 trollers (fire/rad, earth/storm), 2 scrappers (spines/dark, kat/sr)
I'd actually drop Divine Avalanche. Here's your basic template for soft-capping SR:
- Take your defensive powers and slot three defense (or equivalent in set IOs)
- Take Weave and Combat Jumping and slot three defense (or equivalent in set IOs)
- Take Tough and stick a Steadfast Protection in it (I recommend slotting and using it too)
- Stick a full Gaussian set in Build Up, Tactics or Focused Accuracy
That pretty much leaves your build wide open for pursuing other bonuses. Normally, I'd suggest going recharge to pull off the top attack chain for Katana (Golden Dragonfly -> Gambler's Cut -> Soaring Dragon -> Gambler's Cut) and to be able to spam The Lotus Drops, but with how expensive recharge is, you're not going to get there on a budget build. I haven't actually looked at low-recharge no-Divine-Avalanche attack chains, so I can't really advise you there. And what you do with the rest of your build and set bonuses will depend on your goals.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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And I'm now a soft-cap believer. I got there with Weave to all but melee, and Divine Avalanche got me that. Had lots of fun on an ITF standing in the middle of big piles of Roman bosses and EBs.
...I'm going to be spending more inf on this guy. Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll probably be back for more.
@Exabecquerel | 50s:
1 corr (fire/kin), 1 widow (tuna), 3 MM (bots/ff, demons/dark, demons/traps), 2 brutes (ss/wp, kin/sr)
1 def (kin/dp), 2 trollers (fire/rad, earth/storm), 2 scrappers (spines/dark, kat/sr)
Also, once you hit the softcap without Divine Avalanche, you can drop it quit easily. It's great for adding defense, but it does lower your damage output because it's not a very hard hitting attack.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Small suggestion, get sets at their lowest maximum level that way you can keep your soft cap at lower levels.
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this build is not too expensive if ya drop the LoTg 7%ers till ya have money to blow and you dont mind using DA . its also great for end by rotating elude and CP. the knock would be no real travel power , but gets around very very well with ninja running and the speed buffs+ the fly temp from FBZ for that afk travel. i like this because its does not need heavy toggles from fighting added and does not sacrifice comforts ----great on end and moderate on the pocketbook --- and if you ever the cash for the 5 LoTgs its a great recharge spec with near perma hasten as well
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but Werner's advice seemed right up my current project's alley:
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I'd dusted off my old kat/SR scrapper which I'd been building pretty much along the above lines, and I'd kind of given up "just" making it a PvE machine -- I was thinking perhaps trying it against AV's, or pylons, or something. |
Originally Posted by Werner
I'd actually drop Divine Avalanche. Here's your basic template for soft-capping SR:
That pretty much leaves your build wide open for pursuing other bonuses. Normally, I'd suggest going recharge to pull off the top attack chain for Katana (Golden Dragonfly -> Gambler's Cut -> Soaring Dragon -> Gambler's Cut) and to be able to spam The Lotus Drops, but with how expensive recharge is, you're not going to get there on a budget build. I haven't actually looked at low-recharge no-Divine-Avalanche attack chains, so I can't really advise you there. And what you do with the rest of your build and set bonuses will depend on your goals. |
I've gone ahead and slotted IO's in the primaries and hit the softcap, but I haven't yet started chasing LotG's for recharge. Still, I couldn't help but start to wonder:
How much RECOVERY am I going to need to spam GD => GC => SD => GC ad infinitum??? If I'm reading Mid's right -- and I might well NOT be after staring at it for too long -- even with a Numina's and a Miracle uniques and Physical Perfection (and assorted minor recovery bonuses), it doesn't LOOK like I'd be able to keep that pace up for much over 60 seconds.
Thanks in advance!
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
How much recovery you need depends on how you slotted the powers, what toggles you're running, how they're slotted, how often Hasten is up, if you took Conserve Power, and so on. It's really not the kind of thing I can answer.
However, seriously ballparking it, let's say about 3.5 endurance per second MORE than your toggles burn. I'd shoot for that, THEN start doing the fine scale calculations to see where I really stood.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Isnt the Build Up proc in Gaussian Unique?
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Yes. Once upon a time, it was bugged and you could slot it more than once, even though it said unique. It's been actually unique for quite a while now. If you were referring to my comment, there was an "or" between the list of powers I suggested slotting it in. |
Originally Posted by Tormentoso
Isnt the Build Up proc in Gaussian Unique?
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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You're absolutely right on that -- I really worded my question poorly. I'll blame Mid's brain-burnout or something, but....|
Originally Posted by Werner
How much recovery you need depends on how you slotted the powers, what toggles you're running, how they're slotted, how often Hasten is up, if you took Conserve Power, and so on. It's really not the kind of thing I can answer.
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Originally Posted by Werner
However, seriously ballparking it, let's say about 3.5 endurance per second MORE than your toggles burn. I'd shoot for that, THEN start doing the fine scale calculations to see where I really stood.
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"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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I was doing something like that today after I got my soft cap without divine avalanche build all set up. I went dry soloing the Positron EB in Dark Watcher's arc. I ran right from Manticore to him so I probably ran out in about five minutes. I thought it was my recharge just sucking through my blue, since I'm far from maxed out for recovery yet, but then I saw I had forgotten and left Ninja Run and Sprint on. All I've got right now are a few small recovery bonuses, Stamina with two end mods and the performance shifter proc, and unslotted physical perfection. I run all the SR toggles, tough, and weave normally.|
Originally Posted by Eldorado
How much RECOVERY am I going to need to spam GD => GC => SD => GC ad infinitum??? If I'm reading Mid's right -- and I might well NOT be after staring at it for too long -- even with a Numina's and a Miracle uniques and Physical Perfection (and assorted minor recovery bonuses), it doesn't LOOK like I'd be able to keep that pace up for much over 60 seconds.
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My results aren't typical, of course. I left on two relatively thirsty travel toggles that I didn't need. But I'm planning to slap a second performance shifter chance for +end into physical perfection to go with the one I have in Stamina. (And a Perf Shifter End Mod with it because why not take another movement speed bonus?) Then I'll start thinking about the health uniques. They're already budgeted but I might put 'em off and buy some LotGs instead if they appear to be overkill.
@Exabecquerel | 50s:
1 corr (fire/kin), 1 widow (tuna), 3 MM (bots/ff, demons/dark, demons/traps), 2 brutes (ss/wp, kin/sr)
1 def (kin/dp), 2 trollers (fire/rad, earth/storm), 2 scrappers (spines/dark, kat/sr)
This is my first deliberate build ever and combines two sets I've never leveled up before on top of it. It's even my first all-defense character ever, having only leveled up /DA and /WP previously. So I've min-maxed my ignorance.
But he's 42 as of last night and I'm having a ball playing him. I'm just not sure where he should go next and if I'm making the smart choices to get there.
My main goal is just to soft-cap him to all positions. Anything else is nice, but not essential. I want to avoid purples and PVP IOs because I haven't been marketing in quite a while and I don't really have a good farmer on hand to earn back what I spend failing that. My total wealth is somewhere around 1.5 billion, but I'd rather not blow the whole wad on him. A few hundred million is ok.
So the build to date:
So, erm, help?
@Exabecquerel | 50s:
1 corr (fire/kin), 1 widow (tuna), 3 MM (bots/ff, demons/dark, demons/traps), 2 brutes (ss/wp, kin/sr)
1 def (kin/dp), 2 trollers (fire/rad, earth/storm), 2 scrappers (spines/dark, kat/sr)