Need SS/Inv build

>_> having quite a bit of trouble with end management on my SS/inv brute, any good builds out there that cover end well and still have s/l softcapped?

SS/Inv is a tough one for end use. On mine I use 3 end mods in Stamina plus the Performance shifter proc, as well as the Numina's and Miracle uniques in health. I also have 85 to 95% end redux in all my attacks. That lets me run the invulnerability toggles plus fighting. Even with all that I still lose end if I fight nonstop for long enough and use blues occasionally. With the recovery I have though, it doesn't take long to refill my blue bar if I let up on the attacks a little.

Here's my build, I have all of this except for the purple proc in boxing and my current foot stomp slotting is different. I currently have it frankenslotted for ED capped damage and end redux, and decent accuracy and recharge.

I was thinking of adding the +rech proc to foot stomp, so I am looking at this setup for FS but I'm not sure I can really use the extra recharge anyway. Like I said even now I occasionally run low on endurance, not to mention the cost of those two purples in there. I will likely try it at some point anyway to see if it works, perhaps using obliterations in place of the two purples.

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Master Marauder: Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), EndRdx-I(34)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ResDam-I(3)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(46)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(11), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(13), Dct'dW-Rchg(39)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- SprngFt-EndRdx/Jump(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(21)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(19), Mrcl-Heal(19), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-End%(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(25)
Level 22: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23), RechRdx-I(34), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(46)
Level 24: Boxing -- Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(A), Rope-Acc/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dam%(37), Mako-Dam%(39), Hectmb-Dam%(39)
Level 26: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam(27)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 30: Hurl -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(42), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), FrcFbk-Rechg%(43)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36), LkGmblr-Def(36)
Level 38: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(42), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 44: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(A), Mocking-Rchg(45), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(45), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(45), Zinger-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Unstoppable -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Fury

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If you are wondering about the cost, let me just say merits are your friend.

I have 122 endurance points on my build, but I didn't spec for S/L Defense. I can prob suggest grab a couple +MaxEnd sets or something. And maybe if you care for the build enough you can pick-up Panacea: Chance for +Heal/+End *shrugs*

It's hard to identify what the issue might be without seeing your build, but in general I wouldn't consider Invul a high-endurance secondary. Only three toggles, all of moderate or low end cost and no damage aura; though adding Tough and Weave to the mix could be a factor. But as long as the toggles are slotted for 30-40% end reduction, they're probably not the main problem.

Attack slotting is much more likely to be the issue. Are all your attacks slotted with 40-50% end reduction? For example, I know Obliteration is an attractive set for players slotting for S/L defense, but unfortunately even 6-slotted it's extremely low in endurance reduction. If you have that slotted in Foot Stomp, you may want to reconsider.

But once you've got your attacks and toggles sufficiently slotted for endurance reduction, I think a better strategy than slotting for *more* endurance reduction is to look for +end and +recovery bonuses. I know the LotG is very popular for defense sets, but if you're having endurance woes, you should think about slotting Gift of the Ancients instead, since it has both +recovery and +end bonuses. Similarly, Eradication is a good choice for Foot Stomp since you can add sufficient end reduction and because it gives a +end bonus.

Hope that helps; if you post your build, I can make more specific recommendations.

so this is what ive come up with so far.
She is still only lvl 42 atm btw

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lilylin: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Leadership

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(5), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(7)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(7), ResDam-I(9)
Level 2: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), EndRdx-I(13), Acc-I(13)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), H'zdH-Heal/Rchg(15), Heal-I(15), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 6: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), EndRdx-I(21), Acc-I(21)
Level 8: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 10: Hand Clap -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(23), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(23), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(25), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(25), Zinger-Dam%(27)
Level 12: Temp Invulnerability -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(27), EndRdx-I(29)
Level 14: Knockout Blow -- Para-Acc/EndRdx(A), Para-EndRdx/Hold(29), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 16: Unyielding -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), EndRdx-I(33)
Level 18: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(34), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(34), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(34), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(36), Zinger-Dam%(36)
Level 20: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(40)
Level 22: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(36), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(43), Mrcl-Rcvry+(43)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 28: Invincibility -- Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(A), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), DefBuff-I(45)
Level 30: Boxing -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(45), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(45), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(46), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 38: Weave -- Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(A), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 41: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(42)
Level 44: Aid Other -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Aid Self -- H'zdH-Heal/Rchg(A), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Heal-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- DefBuff-I(A), DefBuff-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 7.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 7.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 26.4% Defense(Smashing)
• 26.4% Defense(Lethal)
• 5.19% Defense(Fire)
• 5.19% Defense(Cold)
• 4.25% Defense(Energy)
• 4.25% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 18% Defense(Melee)
• 5.5% Defense(Ranged)
• 7.38% Defense(AoE)
• 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 10% FlySpeed
• 146.2 HP (9.75%) HitPoints
• 10% JumpHeight
• 10% JumpSpeed
• MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
• MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
• MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 5.5%
• 21% (0.35 End/sec) Recovery
• 20% (1.25 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 0.95% Resistance(Fire)
• 0.95% Resistance(Cold)
• 10% RunSpeed

Is this what you have now, or what you've proposed? (I certainly hope it's the latter!)

As I mentioned in my earlier post, overslotting end reduction in your toggles is *not* the answer! The Invul/Pool powers in this build are ridiculously overslotted for end reduction, to the extent that they're barely slotted at all for resistance and defense.

Endurance reduction, recovery, etc. is important, but you do not need to sacrifice all your other build requirements for it.

I reworked your build below. By simply fully slotting your other defense powers and making some other small changes, I was able to eliminate the need for Maneuvers altogether. Please note that the recovery and end drain are only slightly worse than yours, but everything is much more fully slotted. It's a little over the soft-cap for S/L, so you could even save some infamy and downgrade one of the Kinetic Combat sets to Smashing Haymaker. (Note that I threw Hasten in to replace Maneuvers, but you could take one of the Invul powers you skipped, Combat Jumping, or anything else you'd like.)

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lilylin: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Speed
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(5)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), ImpArm-ResDam:40(7), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(9)
Level 2: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(11)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:40(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:40(15), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(15), Dct'dW-Heal:50(17), Dct'dW-Rchg:40(33)
Level 6: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:30(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(21)
Level 8: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 10: Hand Clap -- Mocking-Taunt:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(23), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(25)
Level 12: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(13), RctvArm-ResDam:40(13), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(25)
Level 14: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:30(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(29), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(31)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(21), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(33), RctvArm-ResDam:40(33)
Level 18: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt:50(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg:50(34), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(34), Zinger-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Zinger-Taunt/Rng:50(36), Zinger-Dam%:50(36)
Level 20: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(A), Rec'dRet-Pcptn:20(39), RechRdx-I:50(39), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 22: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(27), Heal-I:50(36), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(43)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(37)
Level 26: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResDam:40(A), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(27)
Level 28: Invincibility -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def:40(29), GftotA-Def/Rchg:40(43), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45)
Level 30: Boxing -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun:40(40)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(45), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(45), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(46), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(46)
Level 35: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam:40(40), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(43)
Level 38: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx:40(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg:40(40), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(42), GftotA-Def:40(50)
Level 41: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(42)
Level 44: Aid Other -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 47: Aid Self -- IntRdx-I:40(A), IntRdx-I:40(48), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:40(48), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:40(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 2.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 2.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 29.3% Defense(Smashing)
• 29.3% Defense(Lethal)
• 3% Defense(Fire)
• 3% Defense(Cold)
• 9.88% Defense(Energy)
• 9.88% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 16.1% Defense(Melee)
• 6.44% Defense(Ranged)
• 3% Defense(AoE)
• 7.2% Max End
• 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 4% Enhancement(Heal)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 179.9 HP (12%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• MezResist(Held) 2.75%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 14.3%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 4.95%
• 20% Perception
• 16.5% (0.28 End/sec) Recovery
• 20% (1.25 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 6.26% Resistance(Fire)
• 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
• 5% RunSpeed

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