Sure. If we are going to proliferate darn near everything else, then why not this too.
In the meantime, I assume that a War Mace Brute just doesn't appeal to you?
I dont like playing redside ;/
dont like the missions, the music or the enemies
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In regards to your point 4:
Have you ever SEEN what a broadsword does to someone when you hit them with it?
A broadsword is a 12-15 pound chunk of steel, that just happens to be sharpened. If they wanted to be realistic about it, broadsword would be half lethal damage and half smashing damage. A blow from a broadsword was frequently known to break bones, even if it couldn't get through the armor.
That said, scrappers will probably get War Mace eventually. There's not much left to proliferate, so it will be within the next few rounds, most likely.
Disclaimer: I have never hit anyone with a broadsword personally, I am a history buff, especially when it comes to medieval combat.
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Especially with how it's animated, if you pick a larger blade, you will have one BRUTAL Scrapper. In fact, of all the sets Scrappers get, Broadsword is the most visually and viscerally brutal.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
A broadsword is a 12-15 pound chunk of steel, that just happens to be sharpened. If they wanted to be realistic about it, broadsword would be half lethal damage and half smashing damage. A blow from a broadsword was frequently known to break bones, even if it couldn't get through the armor.
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That said, I will give my third peg leg for Axe and Mace Scrappers, and that's no joke!
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If by brutal, you mean clumsy then yeah. Claws is the most brutal. There's nothing clumsy, clunky or weak-looking about a clawed gut punch and then ripping out their entrails.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Especially with how it's animated, if you pick a larger blade, you will have one BRUTAL Scrapper. In fact, of all the sets Scrappers get, Broadsword is the most visually and viscerally brutal.
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War Mace crits? Sounds as sweet as energy melee crits! Sign me up for both!
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There's nothing brutal about Claws from where I'm standing. It's a fast-attack, weak-damage set that relies on repeated attacks. The Juggernaut is brutal. Wolverine is just violent. It's not the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
If by brutal, you mean clumsy then yeah. Claws is the most brutal. There's nothing clumsy, clunky or weak-looking about a clawed gut punch and then ripping out their entrails.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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There's nothing brutal about Claws from where I'm standing. It's a fast-attack, weak-damage set that relies on repeated attacks. The Juggernaut is brutal. Wolverine is just violent. It's not the same thing.
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1# Juggernaut
2# Magneto (Yes he can be darn brutal with his metal control)
3# Sabertooth
4# Wolverine
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Originally Posted by marc100
I dont like playing redside ;/
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The enemies aren't *that* different, though.
Sure, there's Snakes for the first 5 levels if you choose Burke.
And Longbow throughout.
And briefly there's (avoidable) Scrapyarders, Luddites, Coralax.
But most of the foes are the same: Hellions, Skulls, Lost, Rikti, CoT, Arachnos, Crey, Family, Malta, KoA, Nemesis, Freakshow, Carnies etc.
Newspaper Missions aren't much different than Scanners. There's:
*X is calling you out, deal with him.
*Kidnap/Rescue Civilian from X enemy faction's clutches.
*Retrieve/Steal $Item stolen by $Faction.
But if the missions (and thier pesky habit of being all in the same zone
) still bother you, you can also also just AE the Brute, using arcs tagged as Heroic content, then wait for GR.
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Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
Well, okay, that's your choice.
The enemies aren't *that* different, though. Sure, there's Snakes for the first 5 levels if you choose Burke. And Longbow throughout. And briefly there's (avoidable) Scrapyarders, Luddites, Coralax. But most of the foes are the same: Hellions, Skulls, Lost, Rikti, CoT, Arachnos, Crey, Family, Malta, KoA, Nemesis, Freakshow, Carnies etc. Newspaper Missions aren't much different than Scanners. There's: *X is calling you out, deal with him. *Kidnap/Rescue Civilian from X enemy faction's clutches. *Retrieve/Steal $Item stolen by $Faction. But if the missions (and thier pesky habit of being all in the same zone ) still bother you, you can also also just AE the Brute, using arcs tagged as Heroic content, then wait for GR. |
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qft, Magneto did look pretty brutal when he was making Wolverine's adamantium coating come right off his bones and poke out his skin. ewwww*shudders*
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Originally Posted by Spazztastics
I agree with Juggernaut being more brutal then Wolverine. Brutalometer:
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Originally Posted by Spazztastics
I agree with Juggernaut being more brutal then Wolverine. Brutalometer:
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However, I want to make a specific point - I'm not dising a character when I say he's "not as brutal." There are as many ways to inflict harm upon your fellow men, and sheer brutality is just one of them. I've nothing against Wolverine as a character or indeed as a fighter. I just find that his approach to killing is less brutish, less brutal and more just wild and violent. It's kind of like the difference between being mauled by wolves and being mauled by a bear.
In this regard, the Broadsword family of weapons (which is to say - Broadsword, Battle Axe and War Mace) are about as brutal as weapons get, trading elegance of approach and finesse of technique for straight-forward, direct swings for maximum impact. It's like the difference between Super Strength and Martial Arts. Beating people into a bloody mess is generally very unpleasant any way you look at it, but Super Strength does that via... Well, strength and brutality, whereas Martial Arts does that via technique and aggression.
And while I've gone on the record as insisting Brutes don't HAVE to be lumbering giants, I don't see why they CAN'T be that if they so choose. A lot of their powersets really do lend themselves to just that concept.
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A broadsword is a 12-15 pound chunk of steel, that just happens to be sharpened. .
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Afterthought: nifty article on exactly this perception (unwieldy broadswords) at http://www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
Hi can we have a War Mace scrapper? Or a Mallet scrapper?
A couple of reasons I would like to see this:
1. I'm having a lot of fun playing a War Mace tank, but I *hate* leading on teams, and if I'm a tanker then I am the leader.
I just like the powers, not the role it has. So to be a scrapper would mean I get to enjoy the powers without having to always be in the lead, or feel that I need to be.
2. I like soloing, and would like to be able to do more damage solo as a scrapper, without having to solo as a tanker. It just seems like a waste to me.
3. I dont like that the only weapons Scrapper have can be used to stab. To me that's anti-hero, to go around stabbing my enemies and slicing them open.
No wonder citizens are running through the strees, cuz theres a "Super hero" stabbing people. lol.
4. I've tried doing a Broad Sword scrapper, which is kind of like a war mace, but I still hate that it stabs people instead of pulverizing them.
anyways, thaaks.
oh, and while Im at it, I still think a Nunchaku scrapper, or incorporating a Nunchaku power within Martial Arts would be awesome.
try it as a temp power I bet you see everyone using it.
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