Pvp pb??

I just dusted off my PB and he is now 37 and Im starting to think about his direction. At this point he is Human/Dwarf and fit for PVE... but I'm trying new things... so I am looking into making him more for PVP. My issue is that I have never really looked into PVP before so I'm not sure the best way to build for it and what set would be best suited.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

A Friend of mine had a PB for PvP, wasn´t that bad but he played on Union where (as on all EU Servers) is not that much PvP as in the US.
So i just can tell it worked quite well, blasting in Nova slotted for range, human for shields and heals, dwarf for another heal.
Hopes anyone else can give his opinion on this

PBs are solid zone characters, though they're not all that wonderful in duels or team arena. Most of the time people will build Human/Nova, with only the heal and taunt in Dwarf form slotted. You can ignore the Nova AoEs (AoEs are bad in PvP) and focus on proc'ing the two single-target Nova attacks (getting extra range is nice as well, as their base 100 foot range is farther than most non-sniper attacks villains have). Basically, between all three forms you've got a phase power, three varieties of flight, two Reconstruction clones, a Dull Pain clone, Build Up, Conserve Power, teleport as an escape tool, taunt, and some hard-hitting melee and ranged attacks.

Here's the build I was tooling around with a while back. I'd change some things if I had to go back and redo it, but since I usually spend my time in the arena, I haven't bothered with this.

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pvpb: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(43), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), LdyGrey-%Dam(45)
Level 1: Incandescence -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 2: Shining Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(3), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3)
Level 4: Essence Boost -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(5), Dct'dW-Heal(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Bright Nova -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-Build%(46), GSFC-ToHit(48), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(48)
Level 8: Radiant Strike -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(40), ExStrk-Dam%(42)
Level 10: Thermal Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(11), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 12: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(13), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(13), AdjTgt-ToHit(17), AdjTgt-Rchg(17)
Level 14: Quantum Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(15), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 18: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(21)
Level 20: White Dwarf -- ResDam-I(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 22: Incandescent Strike -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(37), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Hectmb-Dam%(39), UbrkCons-Dam%(46)
Level 24: Reform Essence -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Dct'dW-Rchg(27)
Level 26: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 28: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 30: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(31), P'Shift-End%(31)
Level 32: Quantum Flight -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 38: Stealth -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 41: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(45)
Level 44: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Conserve Energy -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Photon Seekers -- S'bndAl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), S'bndAl-Dmg/Rchg(50), S'bndAl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), S'bndAl-Acc/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Cosmic Balance
Level 1: Energy Flight -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 10: Combat Flight -- Krma-ResKB(A)
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Level 6: Bright Nova Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(34), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ShldBrk-%Dam(46)
Level 6: Bright Nova Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(36), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Apoc-Dam%(37), ExStrk-Dam%(42)
Level 6: Bright Nova Scatter -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Bright Nova Detonation -- Empty(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Strike -- Empty(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Smite -- Empty(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Flare -- Empty(A)
Level 20: White Dwarf Sublimation -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(9), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: White Dwarf Antagonize -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(29), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(29), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(33), Mocking-Rchg(33)
Level 20: White Dwarf Step -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 13% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 13% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 13% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 13% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 13% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 13% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 13% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 13% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 2.5% Defense(Smashing)
• 2.5% Defense(Lethal)
• 3.13% Defense(Fire)
• 3.13% Defense(Cold)
• 3.13% Defense(Energy)
• 3.13% Defense(Negative)
• 1.25% Defense(Melee)
• 6.25% Defense(Ranged)
• 1.56% Defense(AoE)
• 6.3% Max End
• 55% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 14% Enhancement(Heal)
• 24% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 10% FlySpeed
• 212.8 HP (19.9%) HitPoints
• 10% JumpHeight
• 10% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -36)
• Knockup (Mag -36)
• MezResist(Held) 2.75%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 8.8%
• MezResist(Sleep) 6.6%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 4.4%
• 20% Perception
• 6.5% (0.11 End/sec) Recovery
• 44% (1.97 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 5.04% Resistance(Fire)
• 5.04% Resistance(Cold)
• 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
• 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
• 10% RunSpeed

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Okay well at least this is something to start with. Thanks

I havent played mine in awhile but everything said above is on point. There are so many ways to build a PB...I went the long range shooter route and get a lot of crap b/c ppl hate being outranged. Another PB in zone built for more durability and beats most in lolfiteklub matches. It all depends on your style.

I basically fly around in Human Form with Invisibility (also Stealth IO) and Tactics to help see stealthy toons. When someone is spotted, I hit BU and change to Nova to get the jump on from far off and try to outdamage. I slotted the 2 single attacks out with HOs for damage and range and procs. You have to get a good amount of recharge so that your attacks cycle fast and work on + range if thats your thing. There is someone named Solient Green that helped me figure out how to build the PB for PvP; serach here and in the PvP Forum for more info and good luck.

Also...binds, binds, binds.

I have been PvPing with a PB and I choose to go an all human build. It is very survivable. Since most of the PvPers on Freedom are Blasters and Scrappers I get a crap load of resist bonuses due to the inherent power.

FYI: Gleaming Bolt is a weak, but quick attack and it does an average of 70 damage to a squishy. I slotted my blast with 2 Acc/Dam HO's, Apoc Proc, Glad Jav Proc, Lady Gray Proc, and the shield breaker Proc. When they all hit at the same time I do an average of 300+ damage.

Here is my advice, for what it's worth. I've been PvPing with my PB for 3 years and it's very different now than it used to be. I'll give you what I can from memory as I'm at work. I hope some of this is useful to you.

First of all, a note on set bonuses. If you have interest in playing in all the PvP zones and benefit from the set bonuses, you need to plan accordingly. If you want them in Bloody Bay, your enhancements need to be 28 or lower. In Siren's 33 or lower. In WB 41 or lower and RV 50...all set bonuses work. The exception are the Purple sets/PvP sets, which will work anywhere...so if you have the funds, go for it. If you know you won't ever play in BB or Siren's etc., then I'd recommend slotting higher level IOs.

With a PB in PvP I think you need to specialize. I've seen players who want to be good in all 3 forms, and while that's possible in PvE, it's not so possible in PvP. Your slots are spread too thin if you attempt to do this. You can be decent in all 3, but if you really want to compete with the other players, you need to specialize.

First of all, we'll talk about DWARF:

I'll tell you that, with the mez changes and diminishing returns, Dwarf form is no longer viable, even for slugging it out toe to toe with a Brute. I used to be able to stand toe to toe with Brutes and duke it out...even beat them a lot of the time. But Dwarf resistance was lowered from 65% or so to the mid-40s. That's a big hit. Also, the ability to TP out of trouble in Dwarf form was taken away with travel suppression, so it's not really viable anymore as an escape power. With all of that said, I would still highly recommend taking Dwarf because it has its uses.

For the form itself, I'd put 3 or 4 slots in the power, depending on your preference. Right now I have it 3 slotted with 2 Dam Res 1 -KB IO.

I'd take the heal and 5 or 6 slot it (depending on how many slots you have to dedicate). If you're building for set bonuses, you could slot this up with something like Doctored Wounds. However, I already had plenty of set bonuses, so I decided to frankenslot this heal to get the max out of the heal, recharge and endurance reduction. If you use the End/Heal/Rech from the various sets (Numina, Dr. Wounds, Miracle, Reg. Tissue etc.) you can get 97 Heal, 97 Recharge and 75 End Reduction with 6 slots. If you 5 slot it you can save a slot and your loss on those aspects will be negligible.


(By the way, when you use a tri-aspect, make sure that the enhancement is lvl 44 or below. This is kind of a tricky bit with exemplaring. If the enhancement, like a tri-aspect, is over 20% on each aspect, it will take a hit when you exemp down. If it is 20% or below, it won't change when you exemplar. You won't have to deal with this on too many sets, but on Numina and Dr. Wounds, they go to 50 so make sure you use lvl 44 or lower. Of course if you're just going to do Arena or RV, this doesn't matter).

I never attack with Dwarf any more, so no sense in slotting any of the powers beyond the single slot. However, I have one of the melee's slotted with Absolute Amazement and the AoE with Apocalypse for the set bonuses. You could 1 - 2 slot the taunt to pull someone off a teammate or reduce a targets' range, but other than being a place for bonuses, these powers go largely ignored.

One last thing. I have macros in Dwarf form that I can click to drop from Dwarf into human and instantly activate fly, another one for SS and another one for Q Fly / Phase. Same thing in Nova. This way if I'm fighting in the air, I can still use my Dwarf heal by shifting to Dwarf from human fly, hit my heal and drop back to human and fly. You only lose a few feet of altitude in the process, and get a big heal out of it.

NOVA:

Here's the basic slotting - the 2 single-target powers are 6 slotted. The 2 AoE's are 1 slotted, UNLESS you want to use them for a set for bonues or you fight MM's all the time...which really doesn't happen. I don't have anything slotted in them (other than a single IO) because I have my set bonuses elsewhere. The form is 6 slotted.

The single target attacks can be slotted like this: You can either use them for a full set and get set bonuses or you can slot them with 3 Dam/Rng Hami-O's, 2 Acc and 1 Rech. This will give you basically 150 ft. of range (unslotted snipe range, very handy), 95 Dam, 85 Acc and 42 Rech. You could drop the recharge out if you have Hasten and/or a lot of +Rech bonuses. In fact, the weaker one doesn't need it anyway since it cycles as quickly as it activates. In this case, you could put a hold or dam proc in there as well. I personally have the 3 Hami-O's, 2 Acc and 1 damage proc at the moment.

The form itself should be 5 or 6 slotted. I personally used it to put in a set of Adjusted Targetting to buff the +To Hit and get set bonuses. I have 5 of those plus 1 Fly IO. Some prefer to put more flight speed in, so I made a bit of a sacrifice to get another set bonus.

Nova does great damage from range, debuffs the opponents' defense and has pretty good flight speed. It can be a pretty quick killer, so for this reason, I chose to specialize in this form. I do most of my attacking from Nova. You do need to watch out for other fliers and webnades etc., but you have tools to get out of that with Q Fly and your Heals...or you can try to blast your way out of it.

HUMAN:

I used to use Human form quite a bit for attacking, but it just didn't cut it. I use it for set bonuses and other support powers. The one exception to this Incandescent Strike, which can do -Fly and still does good damage.

The Human form blasts aren't great. I wouldn't slot any of them. You could use one of them for a set of IOs to get bonuses. They take ranged damage or defense debuff sets, so you have a pretty good variety to choose from. Many of those sets offer good bonuses like +rech and +acc. I wouldn't slot any of these unless I was going for a set bonus or unless I was choosing to go all-human OR if I could multi-proc a power, which is also possible. I'd also skip Radiant Strike. They lowered the damage on this from previous issues and it's a melee attack, which makes it harder to use.

Like I said before, I have IS and use it form time to time. This can be used for a set (I have a set of Hecatomb in it) or you can frankenslot it. There are a lot of melee sets to choose from, so pick a set with the best bonuses for your needs, or you could frankenslot with Quad and Tri aspect enhancements to get full use out of it.

Human form seems to take a lot of end, and I don't waste power picks or slots wtih Stamina on a PvP PB...I'd only do that if I was all-human. This is another HUGE advantage to Nova attacks...you use hardly any end, so that's not a concern if you specialize in that. If you go Human, however, you'll really want to keep an eye on this.

Human form heals are another priority. 5 - 6 slot each of them in much the same way you would the Dwarf heal. If you want more set bonuses, you could place them in there (like a Dr. Wounds etc.). Another way to get them to max out recharge and heal is to frankenslot them. You could also use the 6th slot (if you are so inclined) for a Miracle or Numina unique. With a lot of set bonuses, Hasten and good slotting, you can get Essence Boost to be permanent. This will help you be a lot more survivable. Reform Essence will recharge every 15 - 20 seconds with good slotting and bonuses, so you'll have a lot of heals available to you in Human and Dwarf.

Incandesence is your lvl 1 power. You could 1 - 2 slot that and use it for -KB IOs, Dam Resistance or +Def Uniqe. I have a -KB IO in mine.

If you don't specialize in Human, don't take the shields. If you do specialize in Human, you could take the shields, but there is another alternative to consider. For 1 fewer power choice and a lot less endurance usage, you could just get and run Tough, which grants you +resistance to all in PvP. Fully slotted Tough will give you around 27% resistance to all (along with your PB inherent resistance bonus in zone PvP). Contrast that to about 35% resistance to all with all 3 shields running. Not a huge difference in my opinion. You'd save a ton of slots and have just a little bit lower survivability doing this. However, since I don't run in Human much, none of this applied to me.

Hmmm...more random slotting:

I have Combat Jumping 1-slotted as a spot for an LotG.

I have an LotG in my Combat Flight.

I have Stealth 6 slotted for a set bonus and 1 LotG.

I have a +Stealth IO in my Energy Flight. With this IO and Stealth I can run around without being seen but by stalkers and widows. I helps to reduce the incoming attacks from the others ATs.

+Perception IO in Build Up

Well, that's about it. No matter what you decide to do, have fun and don't get frustrated initially. There is a bit of a learning curve.

The man has spoken; thanks for your help getting me started with PvPing on my PB, Solient. And this is very true, "No matter what you decide to do, have fun and don't get frustrated initially. There is a bit of a learning curve."

Something I forgot to consider originally and just remebered based on Big Soto's post is Cosmic Balance. I run solo on my toons in zone PvP so I tried to build around not having this support. Im usually out of range of CB, snipe attacking with about 170ft range. If you team and your teamates stay nearby you can get a lot of mileage out of it from what I've seen on other PBs fighting.

I wish Cosmic Balance was changed for PvP...either a much wider area for the current bonuses or a smaller bonus that applied zone-wide as long as you are on the team. Now that would be cool.

As it is right now, whether or not I'm on a team I see no difference in effectiveness because people move too quickly in and out of range. Now, if you can fight club and have your full team of 8 standing right there...then you'd see a difference.

Wow.. Thanks for all that great info. When I was initially looking at the build I was thinking human only was a better way to go. Now I will have to go back and see.. luckily I have a lot of respecs Im not extremely rich, but I got a couple hundred mill. So I should be able to work something out lol

Well, like I said before, pick a specialty and go with it. I'd never try to take the forms and the 3 human shields, so retoggling wouldn't be an issue.

Personally I like having the awesome range and damage combo that Nova puts out. You still get all the benefits of heals etc. from human, plus you put out a lot more damage. Also, the "shifting downtime" can be lessened by traveling (fly or run) while you shift.

My upgraded all human build for PvP...

I prefer all-human PBs whether PvE or PvP (but for WS I prefer a triformer, which I also have and love playing!) When I saw this post, the first thing that came to my mind was Soto's all-human PB and I was going to comment, but I saw that not only did he respond to this thread, he posted his build too, woohoo! I was pleasantly surprised to see how durable a human PB could be in PvP, my next project might be to rebuild mine

**Warning - TLDR**

So bringing up the thread again based on a couple opinions of having to go all Human for PvP. I will caveat this by saying I know Im not a great player and never claimed to be, but I do ok in zone PvP on my Nova build (thx to Solient).

Was on my Villain toon in SC yesterday and there was a Defender that kept standing in the street in the same spot over and over. After the 8th AS/kill, he engaged me in some mild chat PvP and I informed him that Defenders or any toon just shouldn't be standing around in zone when stalkers are the primary opposing force. I then tried to give him some tips and just mentioned that even on my PB with good range I try to move around for fear of flying/jetpack Stalkers. He then said, "trust me, my PB will dominate your PB in a duel" blah blah blah and all b/c he was annoyed at being killed so much due to standing still in zone.

I loaded up the PB and politely asked him to arena b/c I wanted to see how I would hold up to another PB with a lot of set bonus'. Nova VS all Human match and both having what looked like 97 pages of IO sets:
1st match (I made), 10mins/outdoor map/inspirations - 3 to 0 win for Nova
2nd match (he made), 20mins/cage map/no inspirations - 8 to 1 win for Nova

After the 1st match, he sent me a tell saying I won b/c I buffed b4 going into the match, then popped reds the whole time and ran for the last part of the fight (I don't duel much, but wished I had known about buffing up pre-arena match). In actuality, same tactics as zone PvP...fly in human form invis/stealthed, see target, Photon Seekers, BU and attk...wash and rinse unless needing to change to Dwarf or Human for a heal. His IS grounded me for the last 3mins so I spent time changing forms, trying to get back in the air etc b/c his BU/IS combo was a monster.

Back in zone, I told him GF, but he was a sore loser and dared me for a rematch that he would make. 1st 10mins I spent outside of the cage fighting him, 2nd 10mins I spent in the cage fighting since it was already 4 to 1 at that point. Tactics...outdmg with Nova blasts, and switch to Dwarf to outresist when needed. When he hit BU...I hit Quantum Flight which is up about every 30 secs...I would phase and wait til BU expired then resume.

Bottom line is, outside of all his smack talk (he told me at the beginning of the 2nd match that he was going to record beating me)...he had a good Human build and his IS hit like a truck. My 2x ST Nova blasts hit for slightly less, but seemed 2-3x as fast and they currently hit from 172ft away. So I understand its a preference, but wanted to give my opinion after this match by saying I definitely don't think Human form is the only viable build for PvP.

I returned to zone and the guy was nowhere to be found. If you bump into 'Shining Angel', tell him I said he did a decent job, just less trash talk next time and have more fun with it.

Alright well after seeing what everyone has to say, I'm going to go all human. Honestly, I believe that build will fit me more based on my play style. Thanks everyone for your help.

Have fun Smash