not so much -
Meh I've got one at 50 and i've got no idea what to do with him.
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I'n not sure whether to stick with this guy. (8 second hold is nice) or to reroll as an Emp/Elec defender and slot Elec for end -rec.
Which do you think would make a better Emp?
for a team? def the troller - Marne used to play an earth emp troller in OS (well technically he still has it) the Poo man is another target to mess up targeting, you get a faster recharging powerboost (and the earth stun is looooong when powerboosted)..
if your playing a team emp then you def won't have time to be trowing elec attacks.
I'm assuming you'll want to be a team emp correct? Personally for a emp on a troller I'd go ill/emp for the built in invis, but earth emp would work just fine if you don't want to reroll. Emps should focus more on healing and buffing rather than damage dealing so the primary doesn't matter that much.
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the fiteklubbing ss/fire tanker knows what he is talking about! not
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
I'm assuming you'll want to be a team emp correct? Personally for a emp on a troller I'd go ill/emp for the built in invis, but earth emp would work just fine if you don't want to reroll. Emps should focus more on healing and buffing rather than damage dealing so the primary doesn't matter that much.
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@Psycho Jas
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Chances are, as an emp you'll want phase anyway, so it makes more sense to just go with stealth+stealth IO, even with Illusion. SI is also a huge end hog, and it really has no advantage over stealth+stealth IO. Unsuppressing in half the time is pretty meaningless.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
Personally for a emp on a troller I'd go ill/emp for the built in invis, but earth emp would work just fine if you don't want to reroll.
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Yeah been playing around with him today just with SO's & the stealth IO. Not a bad character. The 8 second hold+quicksand isn't bad either. Might slot him out and move him to Freedom. No point keeping him on Virtue to heal all the pve regen scrappers in RV.
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True enough, which is one reason why the primary doesn't matter too much as far as emp trollers go. But I'd still prefer the ill/emp over anything else. For starters superior invis has no movement penalty. Second you can pick up a confuse and group invis (good for starting off a team match with) and third you don't have to worry about a stealth IO.|
Originally Posted by Supermax
Chances are, as an emp you'll want phase anyway, so it makes more sense to just go with stealth+stealth IO, even with Illusion. SI is also a huge end hog, and it really has no advantage over stealth+stealth IO. Unsuppressing in half the time is pretty meaningless.
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
the fiteklubbing ss/fire tanker knows what he is talking about! not
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i wouldn't be surprised either considering I basically stripped her and never had accos in the first place. moving on, i'd love to see you "whoop" me on your bad ss/fire against any other of my pvp toons.|
Originally Posted by SmegHead
True enough, which is one reason why the primary doesn't matter too much as far as emp trollers go. But I'd still prefer the ill/emp over anything else. For starters superior invis has no movement penalty. Second you can pick up a confuse and group invis (good for starting off a team match with) and third you don't have to worry about a stealth IO.
For starters, I haven't done the fiteklub thing for over a year. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if I could whoop your elec/therm on that tank, something that should never happen. You're just that bad. |
lets put it like this you played an aweful energy/energy blaster in RV once which i ended up farming you got a boner over it and ever since have had this immature 'thing' for me.
go do one.
@Psycho Jas
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Thats funny you say that seeing you killed me one time on a spike with a shark finish (so hard son) and began running your mouth. From what I remember you became e-raged when I farmed you after that. I kept posting your defeats in bc and you were livid. It was quite funny, you were so mad you kept on doing stupid crap (like trying to solo kill me in a group of heroes) that would get you mob rekd over and over. I like your make believe story though. It was cute.|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
i wouldn't be surprised either considering I basically stripped her and never had accos in the first place. moving on, i'd love to see you "whoop" me on your bad ss/fire against any other of my pvp toons.
lets put it like this you played an aweful energy/energy blaster in RV once which i ended up farming you got a boner over it and ever since have had this immature 'thing' for me. go do one. |
As far as your "other" pvp toons, pick one (my guess would be the regin son). Either that or we could do something that was actually fun, like ranged vs ranged? A even match should be something like your mind/fire vs my arch/dev. That way I might actually loose.
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no you chat such crap its unbelievable I posted your death on broadcast first because you were like all stalkers are bad in here these days bla bla bla... and rofl my mind/fire? all my vill side toons are un accoladed and semi IO'd. I'd like to duel your bad ranged toons on my psy/em.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
Thats funny you say that seeing you killed me one time on a spike with a shark finish (so hard son) and began running your mouth. From what I remember you became e-raged when I farmed you after that. I kept posting your defeats in bc and you were livid. It was quite funny, you were so mad you kept on doing stupid crap (like trying to solo kill me in a group of heroes) that would get you mob rekd over and over. I like your make believe story though. It was cute.
As far as your "other" pvp toons, pick one (my guess would be the regin son). Either that or we could do something that was actually fun, like ranged vs ranged? A even match should be something like your mind/fire vs my arch/dev. That way I might actually loose. |
@Psycho Jas
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It was actually after the kill that I stated that most stalkers in RV are bad (true story) and began farming you and watching all the phail you put out.|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
no you chat such crap its unbelievable I posted your death on broadcast first because you were like all stalkers are bad in here these days bla bla bla... and rofl my mind/fire? all my vill side toons are un accoladed and semi IO'd. I'd like to duel your bad ranged toons on my psy/em.
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Psi/em sounds fun. First you'll duel my tall tank, then I'll bring my arch/dev (same logic from last post applies). Then after we can do a nice even psi/em vs psi/em duel. I rarely play that toon since its so damn easy to play, but I'll make a exception this time.
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Okay let me know when you're up for the duels you've listed above, and i'll tell you whats gwaning.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
It was actually after the kill that I stated that most stalkers in RV are bad (true story) and began farming you and watching all the phail you put out.
Psi/em sounds fun. First you'll duel my tall tank, then I'll bring my arch/dev (same logic from last post applies). Then after we can do a nice even psi/em vs psi/em duel. I rarely play that toon since its so damn easy to play, but I'll make a exception this time. |
@Psycho Jas
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Why do you complain about Smeghead forum stalking you when you come into threads and post dumb **** like that?|
Originally Posted by SoulTouch
the fiteklubbing ss/fire tanker knows what he is talking about! not
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the movement penalty is minimal compared to the end cost of si, group invis is lol for any team match as any good team will have granted perception and tactics on dmg a good emp team build for ill is tight anyhow for someone to fit in si and gi over say pa and phantasm...the primary actually does matter if your building for team you want hp+recharge+heal bonus.
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
True enough, which is one reason why the primary doesn't matter too much as far as emp trollers go. But I'd still prefer the ill/emp over anything else. For starters superior invis has no movement penalty. Second you can pick up a confuse and group invis (good for starting off a team match with) and third you don't have to worry about a stealth IO.
For starters, I haven't done the fiteklub thing for over a year. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if I could whoop your elec/therm on that tank, something that should never happen. You're just that bad. |
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Since most people run sprint with stealth, the end cost is about the same with end redux slotted. I see what you mean with a tight build (just threw one together) and gi being pretty worthless on a good match and si being almost impossible to fit in. Hell, I had a hard time fitting in phantasm and pi. It almost seems like hiber would be a better choice to free up a few powers, but then you loose the mobility of phase. |
Originally Posted by Jaso
the movement penalty is minimal compared to the end cost of si, group invis is lol for any team match as any good team will have granted perception and tactics on dmg a good emp team build for ill is tight anyhow for someone to fit in si and gi over say pa and phantasm...the primary actually does matter if your building for team you want hp+recharge+heal bonus.
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But seeing how tight a emp troller build is I don't see how a primary could effect bonuses that badly. I could see mind and ill being the best as far as set bonuses go, but exactly what primary would render a emp so much worse off than any other emp that it would even be noticeable?
depends what your building for - I can build a fire/emp troller with no accos and 1400 hp. For teams the dmg choices are there for +hp not so much now sheild walls...a good emp can run sans fitness pool and manage with ras and geas. Ill primary gives you two pets to stack purple health bonuses in.
A slotted SI runs .6/s end drain. A slotted stealth and sprint runs .42 (that is three slotted with sheild wall all the end rdx ios). It is not a matter of so much worse and what primary allows you to stack the best set bonuses to get you the max hp and recharge you need...
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Superspeed (+Stealth IO) + Stealth.|
Originally Posted by SmegHead
Since most people run sprint with stealth.
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Why would anyone use Sprint?
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Basically to save the slot for something of better use. Squeeze as many set bonuses/procs out as possible.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
Superspeed (+Stealth IO) + Stealth.
Why would anyone use Sprint? |
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Aye true. But is the added endurance drain from sprint worth one slot?
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Originally Posted by SmegHead
Basically to save the slot for something of better use. Squeeze as many set bonuses/procs out as possible.
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Spint affects either jump or run - if you three slot ss/sj with ios one will get short changed (plus if your running with no fitness you are making up some of the missing hurdle) Typically I slot springfoot in sj and celerity in ss - so ss gets a run an end and the stealth io versus sj getting jump/jump-end/end. slot a quickfoot run/end in it and your good to go.
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2 slot them with Micros and you'll be at the jump/speed cap with hurdle.
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Originally Posted by Jaso
If you three slot ss/sj with ios one will get short changed...
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How is quicksand for disruption?