Confusion about: World of Confusion


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I've been leveling up an Ice/Kin and having a good time with him. Arctic Air, with its huge radius, provides a nice amount of mitigation. I've been kicking around going with Psionic Mastery and stacking World of Confusion with Arctic Air. Anyone done this, or just used WoC in general? Happy with the power?


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Out of the box, the power is garbage. I have it on my Psi/MM blaster. The confuse duration is extremely short, much less than the power pulses.

HOWEVER, from what I have been reading on the power, a contagious confusion IO proc really makes this power shine. The Proc lasts for 10 seconds, iirc, which adds some much needed duration.


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World of Confusion is trash for anything but slotting procs. The power pulses every 4 seconds and the base confusion is a pathetic base 1.5 second mag 2. You can slot it with Contagious Confusion, but since CC performs better slotted in Arctic Air for Ice, Seeds of Confusion for Plant, Confuse for Mind, or Deceive for Illusion, the control sets that could stack with it would largely be gimped to try. Of these sets, Ice probably benefits the most, but not really by a lot.

The one Control set that might see some benefit from WoC is Fire, simply because there is no better power to slot Contagious Confusion in, and you're likely to be in melee-ish range anyway. Earth or Gravity might also grab it as a way to fully slot the purple confuse set, which nets +10% Recharge and a huge +5 ranged defense. But IMO that's playing against the strengths of those sets.


 

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Originally Posted by Sardan View Post
I've been leveling up an Ice/Kin and having a good time with him. Arctic Air, with its huge radius, provides a nice amount of mitigation. I've been kicking around going with Psionic Mastery and stacking World of Confusion with Arctic Air. Anyone done this, or just used WoC in general? Happy with the power?
My Rad-Sonic Def has WoC, but I only use it in dire emergencies (like when a blaster aggroed a mob into the squishies) and I don't have EMP up. Choking Cloud is a lot more effective, so I usually have WoC as a "fun mitigation" and not something I rely upon.

If you're an Ice/Kin, you'll probably want to be dashing in for FS, and WoC might provide you with some mitigation while you're doing that.

However, the biggest reason I have WoC is to slot Coercive Persuasion. The proc has a noticeable improvement on the power, and it's a fairly cheap purple set with tons of good bonuses.

WoC stacked with Arctic Air might be very good mitigation, but with Stone Mastery you have the option of shooting for the SL softcap, and I think that'd provide a lot more mitigation than WoC. You could still slot CP into Arctic Air.


 

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I forgot to add one oddity about WoC. To my knowledge it is the only damage power in the game that doesn't notify enemies. So, in theory, you could stand around invisibly and slowly damage critters and they won't react. The damage is pathetic though (base 3.67 every 4 seconds), and it would take so long to kill an enemy this way that it hurts my head to think about.


 

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If you place damage procs in WOC (assuming it takes them?) will the damage from those procs notify enemies?

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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon View Post
If you place damage procs in WOC (assuming it takes them?) will the damage from those procs notify enemies?
To the best of my knowledge, procs in "do not notify" powers still notify the target.


 

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To the best of my knowledge, procs in "do not notify" powers still notify the target.
Yep, they do.


 

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One quick question here, I've respec'd into this power on my Fire/Rad and currently have the full Malaise set slotted... to somewhat underwhelming effectiveness. Looking things over I can get 6 procs in it... the Contagious Confusion and 5 damage procs. Out of curiosity does the power have to make it's tohit roll before the proc makes it's check? I'm guessing it does, which would mean pulling one proc out for an accuracy IO... does anyone know for sure?


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If a power has to check to hit, then a proc in that power will not have a chance to roll against any targets which are not hit. So, yes, you should put in that acc io. It's a bit odd here, though - WoC has standard accuracy, but the confuse portion is marked 'must hit at -25%'. I'm not sure what that implies for the accuracy of the procs, but I believe they'll still key off the standard non-penalized accuracy roll.


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I think the question has been lost on the replies.

He was asking if anyone had tried to Stack WoC with Artic Air, to stack the confuses.

This is a question I too am interrested in hearing.


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I think the question has been lost on the replies.

He was asking if anyone had tried to Stack WoC with Artic Air, to stack the confuses.

This is a question I too am interrested in hearing.
I tried to answer this earlier, but my post was a little unclear.

Yes, it stacks. But it's probably not worth it. Out of WoC you will get at best around a 3 second confuse every 4 seconds with a pretty low chance to hit. WoC with the Contagious Confusion is quite a bit better than that. But, Contagious Confusion is a set-unique, so you can slot it only one time anywhere in your build. To put the proc anywhere but Arctic Air would seriously gimp you. So AA + WoC is sadly not that great.

Where Ice Control might benefit from WoC would be from proc stacking, but it just seems like major proc overkill to me. The radius on WoC is only 8ft, close enough that you will get hit with melee attacks. If you are some kind of Controller-blapper who doesn't already have a Confuse power--a Fire Controller let's say--you might get some use out of it. Ice Controllers unfortunately don't benefit as much.

[Edit: Forgot to add that an Illusion or Mind Controller might have a use for WoC too, since it is non-notify. In theory you could stand invisibily next to a group of enemies you need to Confuse and stack your snipe-Confuses on the them. Why you would actually do this I have no idea, but on Task Forces sometimes my Mind Controller has won the day simpy by stealthing to the end of a mission and confusing the bosses until they kill each other. WoC would at least add some extra damage to that mix.]