IO Question...


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So, I've never really thought about this before until looking at the markets the other day, but on special IOs in sets, like for example, Luck of the Gambler +7.5% global recharge, what is the difference in getting this in the different level ranges? Is a level 25 version of this as effective as a level 50 version of this, since IOs don't technically lose their effectiveness? Or am I reading something wrong here?


 

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lower level ones work when mal'd down to lower levels


 

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That particular IO is a 'global type'

The 7.5% bonus counts as a set bonus, so goes away if you exemplar down more than 3 levels below the level of the IO



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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_IOs

Globals are Special IOs that act like Set Bonuses in that they are always on even if the power isn't activated and even if the power is greyed out because of exemplaring! However, the one thing that will shut off a Global IO is exemplaring more than three levels under the level of that Global IO.


 

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Originally Posted by Nytemynde View Post
So, I've never really thought about this before until looking at the markets the other day, but on special IOs in sets, like for example, Luck of the Gambler +7.5% global recharge, what is the difference in getting this in the different level ranges? Is a level 25 version of this as effective as a level 50 version of this, since IOs don't technically lose their effectiveness? Or am I reading something wrong here?
IOs do lose effectiveness, in two ways.

One obvious way is that their enhancement values are lower at lower levels. A level 25 enhancement enhances less well than a level 50, for example.

However, for many people the most important level-varying feature of IOs is what they do when you exemplar. If you exemplar more than 3 levels below the level of an IO, it stops contributing to set bonuses the set may be providing you.

LotG +Recharge IOs are, as Cat mentioned, part of a special category of IOs that basically give you a special set bonus all by themselves, without more of the set slotted. Thus, if you exemplar more than 3 levels below the IO's level, they stop providing their benefit (the +7.5% recharge).

This makes level 25 versions of such IOs valuable to people who like to run TFs, Ouroboros arcs, or just play with friends who may be on lower level characters.

Note that "chance of" and "for 120s" IOs like Miracle uniques, Performance Shifters and Mako's Bite procs do not provide a set-bonus-like effect, and will work at any level so long as you can activate the power they're slotted in. Thus they "stop working" if you exemplar below the level you have access to the power they're slotted in.

Purple IOs and PvP IOs are exempt from this exemplar cutoff behavior. They will provide their set bonuses no matter how low you exemplar relative to their level. It's one of the many reasons they are so highly valued.


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Thanks for the info all. That helps quite a bit.


 

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begin stupid humor:

Don't forget that the IO also has a +Def modifier which is subject to ED and exemplaring reductions as well. and the higher level versions give more +Def. No one ever remembers that part.

End stupid humor.


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Don't forget that the IO also has a +Def modifier which is subject to ED and exemplaring reductions as well. and the higher level versions give more +Def. No one ever remembers that part.
To quote from one of UberGuy's posts.

"A level 50 one is 15.94% enhancement, while a level 25 one is 12%, so about 4% difference in enhancement strength."

IMO, the difference is minimal, and having the recharge when I exemp down is of greater value.


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Originally Posted by StarGeek View Post
To quote from one of UberGuy's posts.

"A level 50 one is 15.94% enhancement, while a level 25 one is 12%, so about 4% difference in enhancement strength."

IMO, the difference is minimal, and having the recharge when I exemp down is of greater value.
That's why I put "stupid humor" notes on my post. I wasn't being serious.


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