Here's an idea I had...

for an additional buff to Kheldians.


Replace Peacebringer's Build Up with "Photonic Embrace" which would ideally have the same tohit and damage buffs as buildup, but last at least twice as long.

Add a 300% Regen debuff to each of the Photon Seekers.



Add a 500% Regen debuff to Eclipse.



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Why? ^^;

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Cause Kheldians don't bring enough to a team compared to, say, Arachnos, and PBs don't do enough damage.

If you want to give me perma build-up then sure... but honestly, I don't need it.

EDIT: Just read that you're rocking a Bi-form PB, dwarfs aren't really needed once you hit 50, this might be why you think PB's do little or no damage.

Furthermore, that -regen is going to be useless in 99% of content. Against AVs, yes, it'll be useful, but it's not like minions and LTs meaningfully regenerate.

Edit: By the way, I want to specify, I don't agree that giving -regen to PBs and WSes would be overpowered. I actually think it would be useless. It wouldn't address any of the real problems the archetypes face - and I'd need someone to tell me exactly what they think those problems are. It's a fine matter of opinion at this point. 'Contributes Less Than X' is not a meaningful problem in my mind. Back to the main thread of the post:

I don't like these suggestions because they don't seem to address anything that, say, increasing the scalars overall wouldn't do. Why tie buffs to specific powers that people would take anyway?

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Ultimately this seems like an overboard fix to a nonexistant problem. Kheldians certainly don't need to be made more like VEATs, any more than Defenders need to be more like Controllers or Tankers need to be more like Brutes. They are different ATs with different strengths and weaknesses. Making everything the same is never a good solution to anything.

I'm not opposed to some attention to Kheldians, especially PBs, and very cogent arguments have been made in the not too distant past for various improvements that may bring them more in line with Warshades without making them overpowered or destroying their current playstyle and function. However, the OP's changes would firstly be overpowered with the numbers given and secondly are targeted towards upper-tier powers. Since much of the misconception about the roles of Kheldians seems to come from people who haven't yet reached the upper 30s, changes to these powers are unlikely to effect the changes desired. It almost reads like the OP picked two powers at random or chose the only powers he could think of offhand. Adding extra debuff to Eclipse I find particularly baffling - are people really complaining that Eclipse isn't doing enough? Who are these people, and what are they smoking?

Kheldians are already perfectly capable of contributing to teams as they are now. They do not do so in the same way that a VEAT does, nor should they.

I agree that Build Up needs changing for PB's, but I think a longer duration means it needs to give a smaller buff. I would also give it the Fiery Embrace treatment, so it gives big +energy damage and small +other damage.

Photon Seekers don't need -regen, it would be useless on all but AV's. I think a stun would be better, maybe mag 1 per seeker, or mag 1.5 so a boss can be stunned if all 3 hit.

Eclipse is so great I am afraid every single day it is going to be nerfed, adding anything will never happen. Though I think a good -regen power is the only thing stopping Warshades from reliably soloing AV's, so I would sadly have to say no

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Build up for Peacebringers does need something. Either an increase in duration so changing to a form doesn't hurt it so much, or make the form change have less of a duration (and it sounds like the extended duration would be easier). After that, it would probably be okay, or at least on par with other Build-ups out there.

I suppose I wouldn't entirely be against upping the recharge for a much longer duration (like 20 seconds), but not the 180 second recharge for Fiery Embrace. I think Build-up needs something for Peacebringers to put it a little more competitive/on par with Warshades, but that's it.

I think they should either make Photon Seekers recharge faster or change the the 3 pets to one pet and have it look like lightform, have the same AI like a Singularity, and have human form range powers.