fire/kins are bad in pvp
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Originally Posted by SoulTouch
fire/kins are bad in pvp
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For particular, I have no idea who told you fire/kinetics controllers were good, but unless it was over a year and a half ago, it has no standing. Controllers can be devastating builds in PvP, and some are better at zone than duels/arena etc.
They can also exist as disruption/support instead of damage. Things like Earth or Grav/TA controllers can be extremely annoying to enemies. While those such as Ill/Empathy can be great at buffing and aiding their teammates.
What exactly are you looking for in a controller?
As for elec/elec blasters, I wouldn't even try it. As far as I know /Elec can still be made to sort of work, but there are better secondaries such as /Energy /Dev and a case can be made for /MM.
Elec/ really offers nothing in a PvP environment, sub standard damage along with a secondary effect that can be be used to greater effect on a different AT.
If you do want to try blasters I would suggest Psi/ or Fire/
There are several posts around here with builds for various ATs and Powersets, I would take a look around.
Viable Controller Builds
Ice/Cold
Grav/TA
Ill/TA
Grav/Sonic
Ill/Emp
Mind/Emp
anything/thermal
Grav/FF
Viable Blaster Builds
Psi/Em/Cold
Sonic/Em/Cold
Fire/Em/Cold
Archery/Em/Cold
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Elec/MM is the hero version of an elec/therm corr. Granted it's because of a bugged power, but hey...that's the same reason Psy is #1.
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Originally Posted by _Lith_
Elec/ really offers nothing in a PvP environment, sub standard damage along with a secondary effect that can be be used to greater effect on a different AT. |
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just roll elec/therm if you want to drain someone.....
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Originally Posted by Supermax
Elec/MM is the hero version of an elec/therm corr. Granted it's because of a bugged power, but hey...that's the same reason Psy is #1.
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lol I know you love your Arch/Em Divine but I'll put Rad/Em for number 4, they can take alot more procs and hit just as hard. And base from how you play yours arch seem to spend a lot of time on the ground easy stalker bait.
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Originally Posted by __Divine__
Viable Blaster Builds
Psi/Em/Cold Sonic/Em/Cold Fire/Em/Cold Archery/Em/Cold |
@Intro lolPvP
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that was not in any order..and yea i forgot about rad/em. As far as rooting..laster beam eyes and cosmic burst root you quit a bit.....if the stalker is good...he's going to land the AS no matter the set. And you forget something stalkers in RV do not AS lol..they TWROW SHARKS.
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Originally Posted by _Nanu_
lol I know you love your Arch/Em Divine but I'll put Rad/Em for number 4, they can take alot more procs and hit just as hard. And base from how you play yours arch seem to spend a lot of time on the ground easy stalker bait.
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Some use the easy AS alternative, thunder strike.
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Originally Posted by __Divine__
that was not in any order..and yea i forgot about rad/em. As far as rooting..laster beam eyes and cosmic burst root you quit a bit.....if the stalker is good...he's going to land the AS no matter the set. And you forget something stalkers in RV do not AS lol..they TWROW SHARKS.
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I happen to have a Grav/FF I was considering speccing for casual PvP, something I was wondering about on the list you posted is that none of the ones I pulled out from your list have self heals. Since you need the Leadership pool in PvP, and I've heard Superspeed and Combat Jumping are needed for mobility, and of course Stamina to fight for long, what do those non-healing controllers drop (if anything) for the Medicine pool? |
Originally Posted by __Divine__
Viable Controller Builds
Ice/Cold Grav/TA Ill/TA Grav/Sonic Grav/FF |
Also, is Vengeance still any use with DR?
ice ta also good. make a ta corruptor you never see those and all those flying blasters will looooove joo.
Im enjoying my Ice/Rad and it is quite good for duels.
Controllers without heals generally bring alot of greens.
Like Lilith pointed out there are different things you can do with a Controller, so it really depends on what it is you are looking for.
Shenanigans
LotD - JaL - POWT/SMD - SoCo - AJs
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Omgsomadritenao
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Originally Posted by Mirage_Mage
Like Lilith pointed out there are different things you can do with a Controller, so it really depends on what it is you are looking for.
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lol, sorry!
Shenanigans
LotD - JaL - POWT/SMD - SoCo - AJs
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It's nice for the tohit, damage, mez resist, and KB/repel protection. The defense is garbage now thanks to DR. (lol @ PB'd Veng, which is 40% in PvE, adding 4% to my MM's defense stats.)
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Originally Posted by Scientist
Also, is Vengeance still any use with DR?
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Nobody takes medicine. Since break frees are useless, you can carry a whole tray of greens. Plus of you really get in trouble, you have hibernate.
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Originally Posted by Scientist
what do those non-healing controllers drop (if anything) for the Medicine pool?
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Just think mage....if the LR on controllers was broken like it is on corrupter's. OMFG how good ice/rad would be ...
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Originally Posted by Mirage_Mage
Im enjoying my Ice/Rad and it is quite good for duels.
Controllers without heals generally bring alot of greens. Like Lilith pointed out there are different things you can do with a Controller, so it really depends on what it is you are looking for. |
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Originally Posted by __Divine__
Viable Kickball Blaster Builds
Psi/Em/Cold Sonic/Em/Cold Fire/Em/Cold Rad/Em/Cold |
Stpid question- why only cold? For the ghetto heal and hibern00b?
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
Because Fire is bad, Munitions is worse, Elec is bad, and Force hasn't been all that wonderful since they lowered elusivity in PFF.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Yeah it was either cold or force before. Force had PFF and FoN. PFF was nerfed hardcore, and FoN was made flat out 100% worthless. You get zero resist from it because you're already at the cap with shield + PvP res.
So that leaves cold.
I try to avoid PvP as much as possible simply because i suck at it!
I favor controllers. I heard Fire/Kin would be the best choice for that. But i'm not too fond of fire or kinetics for that matter so are there any other troller builds that'd work? Right now i'm working on Grav/Storm troller. Any tips for that as well?
Oh also, what are you're thoughts on Elec/Elec blasters?