Figuring out Damage Mods?

kind of a simple question, that i got really no helpful hits from search on:

How do you factor in damage mods when it comes to determining the damage a power will do?

for example: Defender vs corruptor Charged bolts:

.65 x (lets say 1.0 for CB here) = 65 damage for the def?

.75 x 1.0 = 75 damage for the corr?

I am most likely doing it drastically wrong

If I understand you correctly, then yes, I think you're doing it right.

For a full, complex read (lots of math), see iakona's Power Data Standardization v2.0 (Issue 7) thread. Though there is a problem with the formatting there due to forum change

Uhhh... not quite.

Damage mod (damage scale, damage scalar) is comparing damage from archetype to archetype. A blaster does 1.125 of "base damage"... a defender does .65. For example purposes, we'll use 50 damage as base. A blaster's attack will do 50*1.125=56.25 damage. A defender's will do 50*.65=32.5 damage. Getcha?

Adding SOs multiplies archetype-specific damage amount times the percentage. A white SO is worth 33%, so a 50 pt attack will do 50*1.33=66.5. Factoring in ED when you get up to ED-level thresholds.

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Damage_Scale
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Enhancement_Diversification

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Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

cool beans, but then how do I factor the damage scale posted by City of Data in regards to their #'s?

for my example with CB: Red Tomax lists's it's damage scale as "1", and LB as "1.64"

this would essentially make the damage for about 75% of tier 1/2's for blasters: 112.5 and 184.5...

so the question is, where can i find the base data for the damages powers should do, and not their scale?

Ignore that.

Click through to the detailed stats for the power, it'll show the base damage for that archetype at level 50. Example, Cosmic Burst (Defender) does 76.3 Energy damage at level 50.

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Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

I'll answer since I think I know what you're going for:

Short Version:
Game method: AT damage mod x power damage scale = base damage
or
Scale method: (55.6102 x power damage scale) x AT damage scale = base damage

Long Version:

Here's how it works: I'll use Charged Bolts and Lightning Bolt as an example

Game Method


The game relys on 2 things to calculate damage, AT damage mod and power damage scale(for base damage that is)

At level 50, the Ranged Damage Mod for Blaster's is 62.562
and Defender's is 36.147

Charged Bolts is a scale 1.0 damage scale
Lightning Bolt is a 1.64 damage scale

To calculate the damage you simply multiply the AT mod by the scale,

Obviously since Charged Bolts is scale 1, the damage is the same as the mod

for Lightning Bolt

1.64 x 62.562 = ~102.6
1.64 x 36.147 = ~59.28



Thats how the game does it.



Scale Method


I you want to use the damage scale chart on paragonwiki you need 2 bits of information: the scale damage of a power or the damage of a power and the damage scale of the AT(as presented by the PW chart)

You also need to memorize this one thing: a scale 1 attack at 1.0 damage mod does 55.6102(rounded to 55.61 for the following) damage at 50

Charged bolts is a 1.0 scale attack therefore at level 50 it does 55.61 damage

but then the damage scales come in:

Blaster = 55.61 x 1.125 = ~62.562
Defender = 55.61 x 0.65 = ~36.147

Lightning Bolt is a 1.64 scale attack therefore at 50 it does ~91.2(55.61 x 1.64) damage


Blaster = 91.2 x 1.125 = 102.6
Defender = 91.2 x 0.65 = 59.28


Thats about it,

Melee is the same but with the Melee Damage table obviously

Actually, this is the same way you do ANYTHING in the game not just damage.


Of course after finding this, then you need to account for enhancements and buffs if you want to find the total damage, this is just to find the base.

If you don't know how THAT works I can explain that too if you like.


EDIT: corrected a bunch of typos

ok, so with my new info, im gonna do some math out loud...

55.61 = scale 1 damage attack

55.61 x 1.2 (squid mod) = 66.73 ( 62.56/100 = .6256...66.73/.6256 = 106.7)

Weird, at a basic level, the highest damage mod in the game only does about 6.7% better than the blaster level.

and this would be correct, no?