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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
I also personally look at Claws as a 'Scrapper' set. And it excels at dealing damage, with all the other choice benefits it brings to Brutes (chiefly, lower end cost and rech - both of which are great for FURY). I look at SS as the tanker (or maybe Scranker) style set. |
I think claws is the superior AoE damage primary, because no matter what you say its got three high damage attacks and no rage crashing, and shockwave is something I use constantly. If there's a wall to punt things to, I punt them, and then keep them on their backs up against a corner. But SS is a much better set when you're running with a squishier team, especially pug teams post 32 where someone's leveling their first character. My SS/SD feels ten times more survivable, considering that enemies get off less than half the attacks they usually would and still only have a 5% chance to hit.
The one thing I have to say about kill speed, yeah you can take things out a little faster as SS on a large team running normal missions. Considering how quickly a large team of villains can decimate a regular mission spawn, I don't think that really matters. Unless you're on a team full of stalkers and you, the spawns going to die in less than 20 seconds. On harder targets, SS offers no mitigation whatsoever, while claws at least offers defense debuffs to help hitting it and killing it faster.
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Originally Posted by Barbie_Ink
Now I just need to farm/market myself up another couple billion to really outfit it. Hmmm. I'm not fond of resistance sets, though, no matter how nice /fire is. Maybe SS/Shield or SS/SR. -.- |
Played both SS and Claws and Elec farming. Set for 8 vs mobs with the same resits SS will clear out mobs faster, even melee mobs. Behold the power of rage.
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You are exactly right with your last statement. Just seeing one person with an SS/SD does not mean they know how to make toons that are as effective as they could be or for that matter know how to play them. Spending billions and being soft capped only means that alot of money was spent and they are hard to hit. It means nothing about thier power picks or ability to know how to farm. Until you have made all the power picks and slotting yourself and have played both toons, you cannot really say which one is better.
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Originally Posted by Barbie_Ink
Ack! Yes, 6, not sure where my head was.
 I dunno, my Claws/SR farms Council at +3/x8, and I occasionally duo it with a SS/Shield. It's not /fire, sure, but Shield isn't exactly a slouch. We're both soft capped, have multi-billion IO builds, but I'm moving spawn to spawn faster than he is by a noticeable margin. Not like 'ZOMG LEAVING IN MY DUST', but enough that by the end of the huge ruined city map I'm three or four groups ahead. It's possible he's just slower on the clicks than I am, as I do get pretty spastic with Claws, or that he didn't go for the +rech proc in Footstomp though I can't imagine why not. As for the comment on soloing, my Claws/SR Brute is the primary 'tanker' for the ITFs I run pretty frequently. It's possible that's coloring my view somewhat as Traitors aren't all that susceptible to knockdown, and do tend to charge into close melee range almost immediately. At any rate, it is possible my perceptions of this are somewhat skewed. Clearly, the answer is to level up a SS/?? Brute and see for myself. Now I just need to farm/market myself up another couple billion to really outfit it. Hmmm. I'm not fond of resistance sets, though, no matter how nice /fire is. Maybe SS/Shield or SS/SR. -.- |
I'm not sure where the discrepancy might stem from.