Newbie Looking for Help


Azurakna

 

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So I'm fairly new to CoX (and MMOs in general for that matter) and I'm looking for a little help with my favorite MM (who goes by the same name as I do).
She has recently hit 40, and I find myself looking to the future, specifically a much needed respec. As one might guess, being my first toon, not all of my choices in powers were well chosen.
And so I come to you for guidance.

The facts:
- Necro/Therm
- I prefer being a support player in a team, (I find myself often acting as a primary healer. Sometimes even if there's a Pain Corr around...)
- I'm not looking to solo EBs or go PvP. At least not until I lrn2play more.

(Note: Please be patient, I may not understand all the terms you use, especially if it's abbreviated)



P.S.
Despite how messed up my build is, I'm surprised at just how powerful I still am.


 

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Welcome to the City Azurakna!

Masterminds are both the easiest and hardest ATs. Easy in the way you have all those pets my MM is a Robot/Force field and I just completely destroy everything. There also hardest due to the Pets AI and handling them.

However I can't help much I haven't ran a Necro/Therm so not familiar with the powers as some others. You might try to Search the forum for a build.

Me I never use a build someone else made I have Mids and don't even use it. I find I enjoy the trial and error in what I make.

So my Questions are...

What is it about your MM you want to respec for? How is your build "Messed up"? Do you feel to weak or that you want some powers you skipped? Want to improve performance? Do you have any IOs yet or goals for any IO enhancement sets?

A few tips is make one build (can be done at trainer) for Solo and one for Team. This way you can focus on enhancing your Zombies with Solo build and have the second build focused on your Thermal powers.

List the powers you have and what slots in another post that way you can get a more focused help.

PS. This is my first MMO as well and thought I tried others ('mumbles about WOW and Guild Wars') I always returned to the City! Been here three years now.


 

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Welcome to City of Heroes.

My first recomendation is to pick up Mid's Hero and Villain Planner from the Titan Network. It's a very powerful tool.
Link: http://www.cohplanner.com/

Create your build on Mid's and post it here with the export function. Then we can critique your build and make recommendations.

Grizz


"When Chuck Norris can't go on, Petra Majdič perseveres!"

 

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Originally Posted by Grizzle_Bok
Welcome to City of Heroes.

My first recomendation is to pick up Mid's Hero and Villain Planner from the Titan Network. It's a very powerful tool.
Wow. Thank you. So that is rather useful, even if it is a little confusing...
Anywho, this is my build (Powers are in the order I got them as best I recall...), or at least the one I use. My second build is... bizarre...

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Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.601
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Azurakna: Level 43 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Necromancy
Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Zombie Horde
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
  • (3) Damage Increase
  • (3) Healing IO
  • (5) Accuracy IO
  • (5) Empty
  • (11) Empty
Level 1: Warmth
  • (A) Healing IO
  • (7) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (7) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (9) Empty
Level 2: Gloom
  • (A) Volley Fire - Damage/Endurance
  • (13) Accuracy IO
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Empty
Level 4: Cauterize
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (9) Healing IO
  • (11) Healing IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 6: Fire Shield
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (17) Resist Damage IO
Level 8: Enchant Undead
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (17) Endurance Reduction
  • (19) Empty
Level 10: Teleport Foe
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (19) Accuracy IO
  • (21) Range IO
Level 12: Grave Knight
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
  • (21) Damage Increase
  • (23) Accuracy IO
  • (23) Healing IO
  • (25) Endurance Reduction
  • (25) Empty
Level 14: Teleport
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (29) Range IO
  • (31) Range IO
  • (31) Range IO
  • (31) Jaunt - Endurance/Range
Level 16: Plasma Shield
  • (A) Resist Damage
  • (42) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Power of the Phoenix
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  • (33) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (33) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (34) Empty
Level 20: Recall Friend
  • (A) Range IO
  • (27) Interrupt Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (29) Empty
Level 22: Thaw
  • (A) Empty
  • (34) Empty
Level 24: Assault
  • (A) Empty
Level 26: Lich
  • (A) Damage Increase IO
  • (37) Damage Increase IO
  • (37) Edict of the Master - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (37) Accuracy IO
  • (39) Healing IO
  • (40) Healing
Level 28: Forge
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
  • (40) To Hit Buff
  • (40) Empty
  • (42) Empty
Level 30: Hover
  • (A) Soaring - Endurance/FlySpeed
  • (33) Flight Speed IO
Level 32: Dark Empowerment
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (34) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (36) Empty
Level 35: Team Teleport
  • (A) Range IO
  • (36) Range IO
  • (36) Range
Level 38: Melt Armor
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (39) Accuracy IO
  • (39) Accuracy IO
Level 41: Heat Exhaustion
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (42) Empty
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Supremacy

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Originally Posted by RottenLuck View Post
What is it about your MM you want to respec for? How is your build "Messed up"? Do you feel to weak or that you want some powers you skipped? Want to improve performance? Do you have any IOs yet or goals for any IO enhancement sets?
I'd basically feel that there's some powers I never use (*cough*gloom*cough*) and that I could be more powerful if I had a better idea of what I should be doing and had better power choices. I'm here for the general advice as much as the specific build advice.


Thank you guys for the warm welcome and the help I've already gotten from your posts.


 

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Dump gloom
Dump TP Foe (You have six AoE minded minions, what are they doing with one target?)
If you made it to level 30 w/o hover on top of TP you might not need hover, but I would probably fit it in, too.
Pick up Tactics. Your minions crave enhancing for features besides extra accuracy/damage (heal, tohitdebuff, defense debuff.)
You definitely need heat exhaustion and melt armor instead of team teleport. If you really fancy using team teleport, you can probably fit it in before level 32.

Good luck and I have had good luck on my Necro/thermal myself.


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I love Necro/Therm. There's nothing quite like being the master of several flaming zombies.

Anywho, I'd say that TP foe can be chosen later, like at level 49, because TP friend can be useful in missions for rezzing and bringing a late-comer to the mission to your position. :I'm not a big fan of team teleport, personally, because I think it sucks up a lot of endurance and doesn't let you travel very far. Also, I'd say that Hover isn't really needed unless you have an especially bad computer, unless you just like the effect it has. :P

If you're having any endurance problems then you may want to pick up Stamina, especially if you're considering adding the Tactics toggle to boost your pets' accuracy.

I would skip Gloom and pick your first shield at level 2, so you can grab your pet upgrade at level 6. Gloom is a nice attack, but your pets can do a whole lot more damage. I'd just as soon skip it altogether, or get it later in the game.

Hasten is always a nice choice, if you can fit it in. Your pet summons, heals, and debuffs will recharge faster as long as it's active.

Be thinking about which patron pool you want to use, and make sure to unlock your patrons before respeccing. That way you can use a patron pool for your level 41 slot and beyond.

My build grabbed Melt Armor and Heat Exhaustion as soon as they unlocked, and I never regretting getting them when I did. They're great for making weakening or rendering ineffective many extremely irritating enemies.


 

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Originally Posted by Psylenz View Post
Dump gloom
Dump TP Foe (You have six AoE minded minions, what are they doing with one target?)
It actually was useful when I was in my 20s and 30s, I could easily and safely thin out the ranks of a group that might have otherwise taken my butt to town. Now though, it's useless.

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If you made it to level 30 w/o hover on top of TP you might not need hover, but I would probably fit it in, too.
You right in that I probably don't need hover, but it's just one of those luxuries I enjoy.

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Pick up Tactics. Your minions crave enhancing for features besides extra accuracy/damage (heal, tohitdebuff, defense debuff.)
That is an superb idea.

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You definitely need heat exhaustion and melt armor instead of team teleport. If you really fancy using team teleport, you can probably fit it in before level 32.
I've played around with some TP Team tactics, but they're really just a novelty. The only real use I found for it is when a team starts to get wiped, I can TP everyone the heck out of there, but that doesn't happen all that often.

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Originally Posted by JWatt
Anywho, I'd say that TP foe can be chosen later, like at level 49, because TP friend can be useful in missions for rezzing and bringing a late-comer to the mission to your position. :I'm not a big fan of team teleport, personally, because I think it sucks up a lot of endurance and doesn't let you travel very far. Also, I'd say that Hover isn't really needed unless you have an especially bad computer, unless you just like the effect it has. :P
Yeah, TP Foe is going. There's no real point in having it. Same with Team TP. They're both more or less novelties and the result of my inexperience.
As for Hover, like I said earlier in this post, it's a luxury that I'll be keeping.

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If you're having any endurance problems then you may want to pick up Stamina, especially if you're considering adding the Tactics toggle to boost your pets' accuracy.
Yeah, those are both on my list of "Wants" now that I know what they do.

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I would skip Gloom and pick your first shield at level 2, so you can grab your pet upgrade at level 6. Gloom is a nice attack, but your pets can do a whole lot more damage. I'd just as soon skip it altogether, or get it later in the game.
Yep. Gloom goes.

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Hasten is always a nice choice, if you can fit it in. Your pet summons, heals, and debuffs will recharge faster as long as it's active.
I like the sound of that. Seems like it'd be useful when the @!#$ hits the fan.

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Be thinking about which patron pool you want to use, and make sure to unlock your patrons before respeccing. That way you can use a patron pool for your level 41 slot and beyond.
I'm unfamiliar with patron pools. It looks like I'll have to do some research about them.

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My build grabbed Melt Armor and Heat Exhaustion as soon as they unlocked, and I never regretting getting them when I did. They're great for making weakening or rendering ineffective many extremely irritating enemies.
I lessthanthree Melt Armor and Heat Exhaustion. Nothing nicer than seeing an EB go down like a regular boss.


 

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I'm unfamiliar with patron pools. It looks like I'll have to do some research about them.
General Patron power pool description can be found at Paragonwiki here:
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Patron_Pool


Grizz


"When Chuck Norris can't go on, Petra Majdič perseveres!"

 

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So I completed the Arc to get the power pool today and was able to respec afterward.

Powers I dropped:
-TP powers (Probably will pick up TP friend again)
-Hover (Was meant to complement TP)
-Forge and Thaw (I know they're useful, but I honestly never remember to use them)
-And, of course, Gloom.

In their place I have picked up:
-Soul Extraction
-Swift, Health, Stamina (Oh boy, does Stamina make a difference!)
-Assault and Tactics
-Hasten and Super Speed (Almost considered using Swift+Ninja Run as a travel power, but naaaah)
-Nightfall from the Soul Mastery Epic Pool (Part of that choice was thematic, as I RP)

First thing, I went out and got some SOs and IO to fill the gaps I had due to the new power selections and then I went off to test it.
At first, I didn't notice anything all that different besides quicker End recovery and other such obvious stuff.
My zombies weren't kill anything at a faster rate.
So I double-checked that the Leadership abilities were on. They were.
However, I then realized that I had forgotten to Enchant and Empower my pets...

So they were killing stuff just as well as they previously had, except without being upgraded.
Once I did so, everything was gravy.

Thank you guys for the great advice and pointing me in the right direction.


 

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Glad to be of little help I could. Would have been more but like I said I haven't ran a Necro/Therm so not as familiar with the powers.

STAMINA! I always get that, even when I might not even need it like in a Regen Scrapper with it's built in Quick Recovery.


 

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Originally Posted by RottenLuck View Post
Glad to be of little help I could. Would have been more but like I said I haven't ran a Necro/Therm so not as familiar with the powers.

STAMINA! I always get that, even when I might not even need it like in a Regen Scrapper with it's built in Quick Recovery.
It's definitely useful for Therm, which, as you might imagine, is a bit of a End hog. Usually it's the heals that are draining.

Stamina always comes in useful at the start of a mish though, when raising and upgrading zombies.
Is it me, or do zombies upgrades "cost" more than other pet upgrades?