I lookin for New Computer
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Posted on: 2009-11-18 14:40 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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The Computer I got is right now |
Originally Posted by NovaThunder
Any Ideas on New Computer will work great for City of Heroes Going Rogue comes out and I know the Hyper Mode is coming out too for Rogue, Please need help lookin for new Computer can work great for City of Heroes Going Rogue.
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http://www.thesource.ca/estore/produ...ine&tab=2#more
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We don't know how much of an impact that the Going Rogue changes to the game engine will have on existing configurations or the company's recommendations for "Ultra Mode". This makes it impossible to provide any definitive answers to your question.
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Okay but here's a dumb question/assumption:
Being that the devs are working with it now, wouldn't that assume they are using currently available tech to test and create Ultra Mode? Hence if you build towards the top end you theoretically safe?
Now I know then what do we consider the top end? Yeah yeah I said it was a dumb question/assumption.....
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Not necessarily. The HeroCon demo was a simplified chunk of Praetoria (far less going on than would normally be the case), projected at low resolution (projector was probably only 1024x768, or maybe 1200x1024), and they presumably had an incentive to make it look as good as they could by bringing the best portable hardware they had access to; and it still seemed to have some frame rate issues and glitches. There have been games that came out with the highest-end graphics options too complex for then-current hardware to handle smoothly, with the expectation that in two years or so it will still look great; it's possible they're shooting for something like that. |
Originally Posted by PowerStream
Being that the devs are working with it now, wouldn't that assume they are using currently available tech to test and create Ultra Mode? Hence if you build towards the top end you theoretically safe?
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There is likely to be a huge span of people with cards that are *capable* of running Ultra Mode, but that aren't going to get frame rates they're happy with when it's turned on / up. Something like a GeForce 8300 GS has drivers available that supports all the way up to OpenGL 3.2, and may well be able to turn Ultra Mode on; but given that it's got literally 1/46 the horsepower of a modern single card like the GeForce GTX 275, you can't expect anything other than a slideshow. (And there are people with performance rigs running stock with more than three times the graphics horsepower of the 275, and probably well beyond that when you get into exotics.)
My guess remains that if you've got a 1,000 GFLOP-class card that fully supports OpenGL 3.2, you're probably in the green; the number of people who have performance substantially better than that drops off sharply. It's entirely possible they'll work some magic and bring usable Ultra Mode performance down lower than that. There are huge numbers of people with, for instance, GeForce 8800 and 9600 series cards in the 333, 500, and 667-GFLOP class range that it would be great to bring the (literal) shiny of Ultra Mode to with reasonable performance; it's just not clear how much they're going to be able to do for those with older hardware if their goal is to make something that looks good on *next* year's good hardware.
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The tech demo at the Hero-Con panel was run using dual ATI HD4850s, if I'm not mistaken. Ghost Falcon has stated that the HD4850 will be the baseline for running ultra mode, so essentially they're saying that last year's higher-end cards are going to be the minimum for getting GR looking all pretty (plus it means they'll have likely fixed some of the persistent ATI-specific graphics glitches). I'm personally considering upgrading to a 5xxx series card (I have an HD4850 at the moment) but have no intention of upgrading the rest of my system as it's only a year old.
If you want to get a card now that will support Going Rogue when it's released, you'll be best-served with a HD5850 or HD5870 - I don't mention nVidia's offerings because they're just not as competitive at the moment in the price/performance ratio. However, I'd wait until closer to the launch date for GR, as there will likely be even better hardware available then, and today's high-end stuff will cost less.
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For those of us who dont speek ati i did some googleing to find out equvilant nvidia cards.If the base line is ati hd 4850s then this article |
Originally Posted by macskull
The tech demo at the Hero-Con panel was run using dual ATI HD4850s, if I'm not mistaken. Ghost Falcon has stated that the HD4850 will be the baseline for running ultra mode, so essentially they're saying that last year's higher-end cards are going to be the minimum for getting GR looking all pretty (plus it means they'll have likely fixed some of the persistent ATI-specific graphics glitches). I'm personally considering upgrading to a 5xxx series card (I have an HD4850 at the moment) but have no intention of upgrading the rest of my system as it's only a year old.
If you want to get a card now that will support Going Rogue when it's released, you'll be best-served with a HD5850 or HD5870 - I don't mention nVidia's offerings because they're just not as competitive at the moment in the price/performance ratio. However, I'd wait until closer to the launch date for GR, as there will likely be even better hardware available then, and today's high-end stuff will cost less. |
http://www.techspot.com/review/164-r...75/page11.html
shows a geforce 275 is as good over all an even down to the 260 cards is close enuff .realy hopeing this is true cause atm im runing 2 bfg geforce 260gtx cards in sli.
part of the card upgrade will be how big a monitor you use an its resolution .i stay at 1900x1200 an run high detail high quality .
The OP went out and got a system that has no video card and likely not a PSU powerful enough to add on a "reasonable" video card.
Tom's Hardware bins the HD 4850/5750 with the nVidia GTS 250. So that means a video card in the ~$125 (on NewEgg) and up range for Going Rogue.
And yes, your preferred resolution and frame rate will affect what video card will the acceptable for you.
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missed the toms hardware comaprison but thats good news least for me.newegg.com has regular combo deals with power suplies an grafic cards.haveing rewired my comp an installed psu's before if one takes their time any one should be albe to do it. much like changeing spark plug wires you do one at a time not to mess any thing up.
heres a decent combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.279822
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail
plus
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100269VXLE Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$274.98
but um would case be a problem?
So what your best pick from me the get new PC?
The One I have
1. http://www.thesource.ca/estore/produ...ine&tab=2#more
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The New Computer I'm planning to get
2. http://www.thesource.ca/estore/produ...ine&tab=2#more
so for the Experts on the CoX please pick one for me.
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Nova Ninja = Level 50 (Liberty) spines/ Regeneration - Scrapper
CanadianMan = Level 50 (Liberty) Super Strength/Invulnerability - Tanker
LibertyBoy = Level 35 (Liberty) Stone Armor
/Fiery Melee - Tanker
Looks like more than enough to me. lol
Apart from the cpu, it easily outguns my custom'd Shuttle.
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1 or 2 you didn't pick.
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Originally Posted by Main_Battle_Tank
Looks like more than enough to me. lol
Apart from the cpu, it easily outguns my custom'd Shuttle. |
Nacht Nova Thunder = Level 50 (Liberty) Dark Blaster/Storm Summoning - Defender
Nova Ninja = Level 50 (Liberty) spines/ Regeneration - Scrapper
CanadianMan = Level 50 (Liberty) Super Strength/Invulnerability - Tanker
LibertyBoy = Level 35 (Liberty) Stone Armor
/Fiery Melee - Tanker
Will be greatly upset if my GTX280 and my 3.0 ghz dualcore isn't enough to play on the highest settings in going rogues ultra mode. I would assume that it would still be overkill but thats only if ultra mode is also ultra optimized and not a bunch of crap piled up.
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For around the same price (Minus a graphics card) you could have this:|
Originally Posted by NovaThunder
The Computer I got is right now
http://www.thesource.ca/estore/produ...ine&tab=2#more |
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7&Sku=B69-1130
Or for $200 more:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...521&CatId=4149
You can get a decent graphics card for around $200 or less right now. Of course, you could go for bleeding edge GPU for a lot more. I picked up a Gigabyte GTS 250 (1GB) card for around $140 a short while ago.
We'll see....
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First one is also missing an optical drive. |
Originally Posted by Flameshot
For around the same price (Minus a graphics card) you could have this:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7&Sku=B69-1130 Or for $200 more: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...521&CatId=4149 You can get a decent graphics card for around $200 or less right now. Of course, you could go for bleeding edge GPU for a lot more. I picked up a Gigabyte GTS 250 (1GB) card for around $140 a short while ago. |
The second one is missing both an optical drive and a hard drive as well as a graphics card and the power supply.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
First one is also missing an optical drive.
The second one is missing both an optical drive and a hard drive as well as a graphics card and the power supply. |
Correct. But there generally isn't any reason to dispose of the old ones simply because you're upgrading the guts. If there's nothing wrong with your optical drive or hard drive, no reason to waste the money. Unless of course you're planning to use the old machine for something else.
We'll see....
True enough, but comparing a pile of parts to a fully bootable machine isn't really a fair comparison. Not everyone is a DIYer.
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Although I agree partly, I don't entirely. This was an example of how for the same amount of money, you can get parts that are of higher quality. A direct comparison of course fails, but if you take the same money you would spend on that fully bootable machine and reuse some of your components (HD and optical drives for instance) you get more for your money.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
True enough, but comparing a pile of parts to a fully bootable machine isn't really a fair comparison. Not everyone is a DIYer.
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I guess I should have added that with my examples, sorry
We'll see....
Any Ideas on New Computer will work great for City of Heroes Going Rogue comes out and I know the Hyper Mode is coming out too for Rogue, Please need help lookin for new Computer can work great for City of Heroes Going Rogue.
Nacht Nova Thunder = Level 50 (Liberty) Dark Blaster/Storm Summoning - Defender
Nova Ninja = Level 50 (Liberty) spines/ Regeneration - Scrapper
CanadianMan = Level 50 (Liberty) Super Strength/Invulnerability - Tanker
LibertyBoy = Level 35 (Liberty) Stone Armor
/Fiery Melee - Tanker