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Hami Raid

AlienOne

By AlienOne,
Posted on: 2009-11-06 17:56 in Freedom

 

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pfft pfft pfft...you mean Katana SCHOOL raider :P GO TO SCHOOL MISTER!!! lol

 

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Please please please...we'll need at least 12 BIO nukes for the whole raid..3 per wave. Be prepared to stay inside the goo while BLOOMING and Start single buff (sb, ab, the tanks, fort-forge the scrapper for example) before BLOOM, AOE/BIO nuke buffs just right before BLOOM. Tanks be prepared to continue inside goo, when bloom, pop EoE. Taunt HAMI and MITO taunters start taunting 2 at a time. Scrappers form back up and be prepared to kill yellow mitos ASAP soon as it BLOOMS. Green team be prepared to find the lowest GREEN MITO and hold it asap when BLOOM. Since we will be right by HAMI as we kill it, it's easier to BUFF right before BLOOM TIME and go right back to killing MITOS rather than jumping out and start COUNTDOWN. Cuts down the time. BUT without BIO NUKES we can't do this, 1 bio nukes +reg 20 players, thus we need 3 drops per wave. TY TY TY ahead of time :P:P:P

Tammy

 

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Please please please...we'll need at least 12 BIO nukes for the whole raid..3 per wave. Be prepared to stay inside the goo while BLOOMING and Start single buff (sb, ab, the tanks, fort-forge the scrapper for example) before BLOOM, AOE/BIO nuke buffs just right before BLOOM. Tanks be prepared to continue inside goo, when bloom, pop EoE. Taunt HAMI and MITO taunters start taunting 2 at a time. Scrappers form back up and be prepared to kill yellow mitos ASAP soon as it BLOOMS. Green team be prepared to find the lowest GREEN MITO and hold it asap when BLOOM. Since we will be right by HAMI as we kill it, it's easier to BUFF right before BLOOM TIME and go right back to killing MITOS rather than jumping out and start COUNTDOWN. Cuts down the time. BUT without BIO NUKES we can't do this, 1 bio nukes +reg 20 players, thus we need 3 drops per wave. TY TY TY ahead of time :P:P:P

Tammy
A couple of things:

I've never actually done the Warburg nuke thing. (Not a PvP person) Are there plans to get some people together to do this? (If we do, I guess we should keep the time secret for PvP reasons, eh? ) I doubt my little Defender can do it on her own.

The "BLOOM" thing sound very important from the way you type it...but I don't understand it or the "countdown".

 

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...we'll need at least 12 BIO nukes for the whole raid..3 per wave
Just for clarification. Will our respected team leaders tell us when its time to use our nuke,or how does that work?
Wouldn't want to waste a nuke at the wrong time.
and what about the other two nukes?

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Just for clarification. Will our respected team leaders tell us when its time to use our nuke,or how does that work?
Wouldn't want to waste a nuke at the wrong time.
and what about the other two nukes?
In previous raids, the raid leader (Tammy in this case) would call out (using macros/binds) what to do. The usual order is single target buffs (SB, Fort, AB, etc.) then AoE buffs (AM, RAs, etc.) followed up by a bio nuke, then the tanks take off running (or in the case of a stone tank, slowly walking) to their respective targets.

 

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Please please please...we'll need at least 12 BIO nukes for the whole raid..3 per wave. Be prepared to stay inside the goo while BLOOMING and Start single buff (sb, ab, the tanks, fort-forge the scrapper for example) before BLOOM, AOE/BIO nuke buffs just right before BLOOM. Tanks be prepared to continue inside goo, when bloom, pop EoE. Taunt HAMI and MITO taunters start taunting 2 at a time. Scrappers form back up and be prepared to kill yellow mitos ASAP soon as it BLOOMS. Green team be prepared to find the lowest GREEN MITO and hold it asap when BLOOM. Since we will be right by HAMI as we kill it, it's easier to BUFF right before BLOOM TIME and go right back to killing MITOS rather than jumping out and start COUNTDOWN. Cuts down the time. BUT without BIO NUKES we can't do this, 1 bio nukes +reg 20 players, thus we need 3 drops per wave. TY TY TY ahead of time :P:P:P

Tammy


Your going to attempt a no retreat raid on a server that barely can acomplish a regular raid? You can do this with out bio nukes we do it on Justice all the time but it does require tanks that know what they are doing re hami raids........Also this requires every person at the raid to have some EoE's rather then just the tanks as everyone will want to pop and EoE before the bloom.

Why not get normal raids going regularly first before attempting this?

I have run no retreat raids before so i know how to do it i just think it would be better to do it slower untill peeps on freedom have a regular raid crew.


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I'd like to add my name to the list and can fill whatever is needed from my few alts(only available Saturday though,I have to work late afternoon Friday past the start time.)

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Your going to attempt a no retreat raid on a server that barely can acomplish a regular raid? You can do this with out bio nukes we do it on Justice all the time but it does require tanks that know what they are doing re hami raids........Also this requires every person at the raid to have some EoE's rather then just the tanks as everyone will want to pop and EoE before the bloom.

Why not get normal raids going regularly first before attempting this?

I have run no retreat raids before so i know how to do it i just think it would be better to do it slower untill peeps on freedom have a regular raid crew.
Good point, each players should have atleast 4 EoEs to accomplish the no retreat method. Is why EoE farming is soo crucial. I will be leading the tank team (since tanks are the anchor to hami raid) and few on our team are very familiar with the raid. I understand I haven't been around for raiding for the new players / players who moved to higher populated server. Lets just see how directed everyone is. If we wipe on no retreat, it'll be my fault for directing that, and we'll just do it regularly till everyone gets familiar. I thought of that carefully for hours and prefer everyone start to get familiar with that tactic than for people to get too familiar jumping out of goo even before Bloom. I'm more concerned with players who doesn't seem to like directions and think they can go straight to hami. I've seen some pretty funny people who Leroys without taking directions at all. Oh, just remembered, once mitos are killed off, Tanks are to be on the other side of hami while the squishies stay on the other side. Remember, innate gauntlet of tanks will aggro hami/mito aoe splash damage; so for us tanks, remember to stay at taunt range of mitos and for hami tanks to keep hami splash away from squishies.

 

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Just for clarification. Will our respected team leaders tell us when its time to use our nuke,or how does that work?
Wouldn't want to waste a nuke at the wrong time.
and what about the other two nukes?
Before the Raid begins, we'll take count of how many BIO-NUKEs are available then we'll assign who will drop on what waves. I recommend dedicated scrappers to get bio-nukes since 2 teams of scrappers is what I prefer anyways. that way they can assign within the team who'll drop 3 bio-nukes. Team 1 for example can assign first 3 players for 1st wave and 2nd wave, Team 2 can assign 3 players for 3rd wave and 4th wave. It also cuts down the time for discussion in the HIVE if we all can sort out right here who's gonna do what. If any other players outside of that brings bio nukes then let us know.

 

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I talked to you the other day about it, but just a reminder - bringing Inevitable Death - Dark/Dark Def. You said to put her on a green team. She has teleport of course.

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I will be running late tonight, and there is a chance I may miss the Raid tonight.

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It's not looking good for me to get home by 9pm - I'm running at least an hour behind schedule.

Sorry & good luck tonight!

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Been trying to get in the 1st Hive...its full!




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Good times, Tammy! Great job leading.

Somehow I got sucked into leading a team...lol. Learning on the job. Lucky I had some good help. Probably be back tomorrow.

 

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Good times, Tammy! Great job leading.

Somehow I got sucked into leading a team...lol. Learning on the job. Lucky I had some good help. Probably be back tomorrow.
lol well without you this raid would have prolly not got done right lol hehe

 

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Was fun, thanks for leading it Tammy
glad you were there, isn't it funny how alot of new players right under hami have no clue why they were there without the green and blues being down but they were there non-the-less. I'm just glad you all came and helped make this raid possible. thank you again.

 

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Was fun, thanks for leading it Tammy
Hey First, I need to point out that you were a huge help on our team. You and the others steered me in the right direction so many times.

Tammy, I still have a question actually.

Is the blue team supposed to continue to concentrate on blue mitos throughout? At one point I thought you said "greens then blues"...do our priorities switch at that point?

I also think a couple of the tankers didn't know about...

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Remember, innate gauntlet of tanks will aggro hami/mito aoe splash damage; so for us tanks, remember to stay at taunt range of mitos and for hami tanks to keep hami splash away from squishies.
A timely reminder couldn't hurt. (I'll bet you were planning that already) Especially about bringing it to our little rock after a wave. Our team was in the middle of congratulating ourselves on everyone surviving a wave when we were wiped by that evil splash. lol... (Or was that griefers?)

I also never did find out who was leading Yellow team 1. (We were supposed to be following them) We merely worked our way through the blues clockwise and that seemed to work.

All in all, one of my better experiences in the Hive...ever (My connection and computer were sub-par in the old days so I missed half of what was going on). And mostly due to you Tammy.

Any plans for EoE farming today? ...And I wonder if Bio-Nukes will still be available? (Ok...that's enough for now )

 

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How did the raid go? i got home from class late sorry i couldnt make it. hope it went well.

 

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Is the blue team supposed to continue to concentrate on blue mitos throughout? At one point I thought you said "greens then blues"...do our priorities switch at that point?
Until the yellow mitos go down, continue to distract blues with range/damage. Once down, I've seen both ways where greens go down first and or blues go down first. Usually, I'd prefer a leader from the green team to take over as lead targeter for mitos and start going thru one mitos at a time, calling out with $target what mitos being targetted, reason: keeps everyone focused, because I saw alot of people in the goo scattered everywhere especially new players thinking going straight to Hami will help damage it before mitos go down. It was a funny yet sad sight to see some having no clue to directions. But attacking preferably greens first then blues would have been nice but the problem last night was greens weren't getting enough HOLD damage. It's okay, soon as you joined in to help, greens died.

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Our team was in the middle of congratulating ourselves on everyone surviving a wave when we were wiped by that evil splash. lol... (Or was that griefers?)
No it wasn't griefers, they were new players trying to come back to regroup with splash aggro. I'd prefer if you have splash aggro because of it's aoe damage, I'd like to see them just not bring it to us. If you can't survive the hit it's better to just die as a single player and be tp'd back then to bring it to us and wipe us. Easy fix though, once regrouped start heal umbrella and not bring splash aggro to us.

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I also never did find out who was leading Yellow team 1. (We were supposed to be following them) We merely worked our way through the blues clockwise and that seemed to work.
You did great!

 

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Jeet: I'm not sure who was supposed to be leading yellow team one, but I stepped up and tried my best. This was my first Hami.

 

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Nov 14 Sat 9pm EST Blue side HAMI will continue. Teams are EoE farming throughout today. I recommend if you'd like to see a faster HAMI RAID to be there early before the hives full, team up to your respective teams: Hami/mito tank team, Yellow mito damage team 1 & 2, Blue mito distraction team 1 & 2, Green mito hold/damage/targetting teams, and Shadow support team<---if we have them.

Pick up Jet-pack from Jet-pack vendor, no sense wasting time hopping to hit one at a time when you can fly up to melee range of High Mitos.

Prefer to have 12 Bio-Nukes and assign people to who's going to drop 3 on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th wave. As well as continue EoE farming. The key is EoE's. If we have a load of EoE's to spare we can then consider "the NO-Retreat" Method.

I would like to really thank everyone for a very smooth raid so far. Once started, Hami didn't last even an hour. To consider the NO-Retreat, we'll have to get more comfortable and we'll need someone to be the HEALTH COUNTER and TIMER so that we can coordinate a NUKE DROPS and EOE pop before BLOOM. Squishies only need 1 EOE pop per BLOOM to survive, so in reality since there's 3 blooms, 3 eoe per players with exception of HAMI Taunt tank. Hami Taunt Tank requires him to use EoE's till all MITOs are cleared. So the faster everyone COORDINATES to kill MITOS together the less time HAMI Taunt Tank will rely on popping EOE's.

Hope everyone will enjoy TONIGHTs HAMI RAID.

:P:P:P

PS: Red Side HAMI RAID's sign up list will soon be up!

 

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Jeet: I'm not sure who was supposed to be leading yellow team one, but I stepped up and tried my best. This was my first Hami.
Wow...we were a bunch of rookies out there! It certainly looked like you guys were kicking butt from my seat.