Rage has had the -def for a long time. It used to have a massive stun that got removed.
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Man, my memory must be going...I thought for a while they had removed the Defense Debuff because at the time it was playing hell with Ice Armor.
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The -def penalty is negated if you double stack rage.
Good to know, thanks for the info Calash.
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What you might be thinking of is that they removed the "affect self only" period during the crash because Invincibility, Rise to the Challenge, and similar powers weren't able to affect enemies in range and buff the player. So in the case of the iconic Inv/SS Tanker, defense would indeed plummet during the crash because Invincibility wasn't defending.|
Originally Posted by NuclearMedicine
Man, my memory must be going...I thought for a while they had removed the Defense Debuff because at the time it was playing hell with Ice Armor.
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The fix was to change it to -9999% damage (give or take a few nines). Now you still can't deal out offense, but you do get the defense from Invincibility (and the taunt and to-hit, and similarly for other powers). You still get a 20% def penalty though, but it's a fixed penalty, at least, so soft-capped characters still have some defense.
If Rage recharges fast enough, you will not suffer the defense penalty, but you will still have the damage debuff on yourself no matter what.
My own Inv/SS tanker must be right on the edge of enough recharge for this, since sometimes I get the defense penalty and sometimes I do not.
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I believe that Castle also once mentioned that they might look into the crash effect to see if they could change it to something that would affect Def and Res sets more equitably.
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Please note: Just as the vet attacks are not affected by damage buffs, they are not affected by this either. Rage crash is when you want to use your Sands of Mu, Nemesis Staff, etc.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
The fix was to change it to -9999% damage (give or take a few nines). Now you still can't deal out offense, but you do get the defense from Invincibility (and the taunt and to-hit, and similarly for other powers).
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Actually Castle did try to remove the -def crash, it was at the same time he removed the only affect self period. He had tried replacing it with a -recover period which cause an outcry. Especially combined with the end crash, blue bars emptied out quick.
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Okay, I admit it's been awhile since I ran a SS Tank and when I did it was a Fire/SS, but I thought they had done away with the Defense deduction when Rage crashes. I just noticed it on my Shield/SS Tank. Is it back in affect?
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