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What attack chain do you use and how long did the fight take? I'm interested because I might give it a shot on my Ice/SS.
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I just used Haymaker-Jab-Punch-Jab-repeat...I used Knockout Blow whenever it recharged.
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What attack chain do you use and how long did the fight take? I'm interested because I might give it a shot on my Ice/SS. |
I was just using my regualar overall Tank build.
I'm in the process of planning out a pure DPS build that will make this process easier and faster.
How long did it take? I'm guessing probably close to 20-30 minutes? In any case it's a nice accomplishment. From what I've seen most tankers are just barely above the sustained DPS to overcome an AV's regen; the challenge becomes keeping enough recovery to sustain the damage output.
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Yeah it was about 20-30 mins.
How long did it take? I'm guessing probably close to 20-30 minutes? In any case it's a nice accomplishment. From what I've seen most tankers are just barely above the sustained DPS to overcome an AV's regen; the challenge becomes keeping enough recovery to sustain the damage output.
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What's promising is that I did with the powers you see in the screenshot.
I'm planning to make a build geared towards fighting AVs.
I understand that some will just be impossible to overcome their regen because smashing is heavily resisted but...I know that once I make my build with Hasten added in, it should work out pretty well.
Nice accomplishment I like tanks and am back after not playing for a while I might give this build a shot. i have never played a WP tanker.... would it work with Invulnerability? I have always wanted an invulnerability/SS tanker.
P.S. I like your GUI layout I may have to copycat you
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It could be done with an Invuln; you'd need to have considerable recovery IO bonuses though. The problem is having the recovery for non-stop attacking over the 20+ minutes it'll take, actually surviving is trivial. My BS/Regen scrapper has solo'd a few AV's and even with that character my biggest problem was endurance.
Nice accomplishment I like tanks and am back after not playing for a while I might give this build a shot. i have never played a WP tanker.... would it work with Invulnerability? I have always wanted an invulnerability/SS tanker.
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Yeah, surviving was not an issue at all.
It could be done with an Invuln; you'd need to have considerable recovery IO bonuses though. The problem is having the recovery for non-stop attacking over the 20+ minutes it'll take, actually surviving is trivial. My BS/Regen scrapper has solo'd a few AV's and even with that character my biggest problem was endurance.
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With all my +recovery set bonuses and having the performance shifter proc in both QR and Stamina I never went below 50% endurance.
Obviously an invuln does not get QR but there is Conserve Power and Physical Perfection...so you should be able to overcome endurance concerns on an invuln.
So I'm just curious, have you tried to see how many AV's you can take on at once, not necessarily kill them but take the damage and not die?
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I have not yet done that.
So I'm just curious, have you tried to see how many AV's you can take on at once, not necessarily kill them but take the damage and not die?
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Once I finish my pure TANK build I will see (I still need a few more Kinetic Combats to softcap my s/l defense).
Is there an AE mission where I can test this?
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It depends entirely on the tanker and the AV's in question. AV's like Chimera are easy, and you can handle multiple of that type for quite a while. AV's like, oh say Ghost Widow and you'll probably need outside buffs to handle only one.
So I'm just curious, have you tried to see how many AV's you can take on at once, not necessarily kill them but take the damage and not die?
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Different tankers have different levels of survivability; and different AV's are strong vs different things. There's really no way to meaningfully answer your question.
Raw numbers, the most I've ever had at once was all four of the STF patron AV's on my Granite tanker... with the stacked Increase Density to beat GW's hold I wasn't having any problems. If I hadn't had the MAG 100+ hold protection from 7 ID's on me then I'd have been dead the instant GW hit me with her hold.
I've tanked Reichsman and one of his "support" AV's with my Invuln... that wasn't any issue. Of course other than his obscene hit points Reichsman is a wimp.
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Ahh yeah. I was just curious about like what the average a wp/ss could take because I'm currently working on a Wp/ss brute.(EDIT: I know brutes are different from tanks just like to get a feel) he's 33 and I'm loving him. What I usually do to test how much my tanker can take, I go into ae and create custom but similar to what you would see in game and I'll see how many I can take when thier powers are on normal, then how many I can take on Extreme.
It depends entirely on the tanker and the AV's in question. AV's like Chimera are easy, and you can handle multiple of that type for quite a while. AV's like, oh say Ghost Widow and you'll probably need outside buffs to handle only one.
Different tankers have different levels of survivability; and different AV's are strong vs different things. There's really no way to meaningfully answer your question. Raw numbers, the most I've ever had at once was all four of the STF patron AV's on my Granite tanker... with the stacked Increase Density to beat GW's hold I wasn't having any problems. If I hadn't had the MAG 100+ hold protection from 7 ID's on me then I'd have been dead the instant GW hit me with her hold. I've tanked Reichsman and one of his "support" AV's with my Invuln... that wasn't any issue. Of course other than his obscene hit points Reichsman is a wimp. |
Most the time though I see what my greatest weakness is and then I'll create a few AVs that address exactly what my weakness is and see how many of those I can take(not many though lol)
Although you gave a pretty dang good answer, is the tank your talking about your stone?
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I've tanked most everything in the game with a Stone and an Invuln; now that it's relatively easy to soft cap an Invuln the gap between the two has narrowed quite a bit... to the detriment of my playtime with the Stone/Fire. If he wasn't on another server from my Inv I doubt I'd play him much at all, he just doesn't bring much to the table that the Inv can't do as well.
Ahh yeah. I was just curious about like what the average a wp/ss could take because I'm currently working on a Wp/ss brute.(EDIT: I know brutes are different from tanks just like to get a feel) he's 33 and I'm loving him. What I usually do to test how much my tanker can take, I go into ae and create custom but similar to what you would see in game and I'll see how many I can take when thier powers are on normal, then how many I can take on Extreme.
Most the time though I see what my greatest weakness is and then I'll create a few AVs that address exactly what my weakness is and see how many of those I can take(not many though lol) Although you gave a pretty dang good answer, is the tank your talking about your stone? |
The 4 patron AV's in the STF example was with my Stone/Fire tank, Granite Flame; and as long as I had the mez protection to handle GW's godawful hold I was in no real danger. At that time I believe that tanker was running a HO/SO build with minimal if any IO sets; this was early in the IO era... maybe issue 9, certainly no later than issue 10.
I've done the same once or twice with my Invuln/Stone tank, Call Me Awesome but I'll admit there were some buffs floating around

There haven't been a lot of other situations I can recall where I've had to tank more than one AV, I've generally avoided AE and most missions will only have one, at most two widely separated AV's.
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Well I gotta say Grits
I've tanked most everything in the game with a Stone and an Invuln; now that it's relatively easy to soft cap an Invuln the gap between the two has narrowed quite a bit... to the detriment of my playtime with the Stone/Fire. If he wasn't on another server from my Inv I doubt I'd play him much at all, he just doesn't bring much to the table that the Inv can't do as well.
The 4 patron AV's in the STF example was with my Stone/Fire tank, Granite Flame; and as long as I had the mez protection to handle GW's godawful hold I was in no real danger. At that time I believe that tanker was running a HO/SO build with minimal if any IO sets; this was early in the IO era... maybe issue 9, certainly no later than issue 10. I've done the same once or twice with my Invuln/Stone tank, Call Me Awesome but I'll admit there were some buffs floating around ![]() There haven't been a lot of other situations I can recall where I've had to tank more than one AV, I've generally avoided AE and most missions will only have one, at most two widely separated AV's. |

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This is my attempt to solo as many AVs as possible with my WP/SS Tank (no temps, no inspirations).
I started with Chimera last night and had success.